Dasein, Triton 668; Nathan Sanborn

Post by **dasein668** » Mon May 09, 2005 9:39 am

Yes, Ok, there are quite a few pictures of my boat available on my website?dasein668.com?but I like the idea of having boats listed here, too, so here are just a couple shots that I like. Some old, some new.

Sailing, 2004:

Deck Condition, pre-2005:

Early Winter, 2005:

New Taffrail Design:

In Progress, April 2005:

windrose · Post by **windrose** » Mon May 09, 2005 11:04 am

Jeez, Nathan.... now I am embarrassed to post any photos of my boat. WOW! That looks incredible.

Can't imagine a shop like that either.... WOW!

Post by **dasein668** » Mon May 09, 2005 11:55 am

This work would not have happened without Tim's shop (and without Tim there egging me on! hehe). Frankly, I'm more impressed with the work that people like Mike Hass and Britton Cooke (and others) are doing, since they are working under more challenging conditions!

Post by **Tim** » Mon May 09, 2005 5:22 pm

windrose wrote:Jeez, Nathan.... now I am embarrassed to post any photos of my boat. WOW! That looks incredible.

Come on, Ang...all our boats started out looking terrible. The beauty of project boats is the transformation more than the end result (as nice as that might be). No one here will look down in the least, as we all know the potential locked within!

I hope to see some photos of Windrose.

bcooke · Post by **bcooke** » Mon May 09, 2005 7:40 pm

Frankly, I'm more impressed with the work that people like <insert hero names here> are doing, since they are working under more challenging conditions!

Trying to keep up with the Jones' in your neighborhood sounds pretty challenging to me.

...now I am embarrassed to post any photos of my boat

It can't' be any worse than my boat. At the moment I am moving in the wrong direction. It was a "sail-away" after all. And like Tim says, they all start somewhere in the "needs improvement" category.

-Britton

jhenson · Post by **jhenson** » Mon May 09, 2005 9:25 pm

It can't' be any worse than my boat.

Unless someone emerges who claims the boat in the Virgin Islands-

http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/da ... mit.5s.jpg

-then I think I might have the honor of owning the skankiest Triton (or any other sailboat) right now; what with it's peeled back hull and interior with more bondo than a fleet of 1960's muscle cars. Furthermore, I have so many leaks through holes, hatches, and cockpit lockers that I have considered just burying it in the back yard and coverting it into a cistern.

Now that I've lowered the bar, noone should feel ashamed to post any pictures on this forum.

Joe

bcooke · Post by **bcooke** » Mon May 09, 2005 9:52 pm

No, no... I have the ugliest boat in the world :-)

jhenson · Post by **jhenson** » Mon May 09, 2005 10:12 pm

No, no... I have the ugliest boat in the world :-)

Maybe you do and maybe you don't. Just give me a few more weeks with a grinder and you won't even be close!!!

jhenson · Post by **jhenson** » Tue May 10, 2005 7:22 am

Dasein is just stunning! In this world of throw away everything, it's great to see this 40 year old boat in such fine condition that she will probably see another 40 years. I know you can't wait to see her in the water. We will look forward to those pictures.

Joe

Figment · Post by **Figment** » Tue May 10, 2005 9:27 pm

I'm loving the taffrail! Ditto on the grey nonskid.

Are you planning to mount chocks atop the taffrail, or will stern lines pass under?

What's hanging on the wall in the background of that taffrail photo? Looks like an offcut from the daysailor's curved cabin. When ya hang a horseshoe over a door, you're supposed to hang it the other way, so's the luck won't run out!

Looking closer... what manner of beast is that mounted on the plaque?

Post by **dasein668** » Wed May 11, 2005 12:25 am

Figment wrote:Are you planning to mount chocks atop the taffrail, or will stern lines pass under?

Well, I'm not really sure about that yet. Running lines under sounds dicey, but I don't want to muck things up with big ol' gaumy chocks either... Time will tell.

Figment wrote:Looking closer... what manner of beast is that mounted on the plaque?

Can you believe that with the gazillion times I've been through that door, I'm not actually sure?! I want to say Leopard, but somehow that doesn't seem right....

Post by **Tim** » Wed May 11, 2005 8:07 am

Figment wrote:What's hanging on the wall in the background of that taffrail photo? Looks like an offcut from the daysailor's curved cabin. When ya hang a horseshoe over a door, you're supposed to hang it the other way, so's the luck won't run out!

I know, I know...I need to turn it around, but then I'd have to figure out some means of hanging it!

That's the offcut from the Daysailor cabin trunk, and I hung it there over a convenient bracket just because it was there, and couldn't bear throwing that piece away. Eventually, I will mount it upright to contain all the luck.

Figment wrote:Looking closer... what manner of beast is that mounted on the plaque?

That's an African leopard. This classy little number came from a small A-frame cottage that Heidi's dad owned. When he sold it, we ended up with this prize, which just seemed perfectly suited to the barn.

Post by **dasein668** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:55 pm

I see that I never posted any floaters of Dasein, post-exterior-refit. Here are a couple to round out this post.

On the mooring with approaching T-storm.

Heading east, Muscongus Bay Maine.

Crossing East Penobscot Bay.

Anchored at Merchants Harbor.

Anchored at Buckle Harbor.

Reaching up Eggemoggin Reach.

Harbor Island.

Near Clapboard Island.

Ok, ok. So that was more than a couple. So shoot me! ;-P

Canuck · Post by **Canuck** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:40 pm

Wow ! Gives me something to strive for.
Could describe how you did the nonskid.
Thanks

Post by **dasein668** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:10 pm

From the exterior paint write-up on my website:

The final job in getting the boat painted was to paint the nonskid on deck. The first step was to remask all of the nonskid areas. I then had to sand some minor white overspray from the nonskid areas. Once this was done I vacumed the decks and tacked off. I then prepared the paint.

I chose Petit's Easypoxy one-part polyurethane paint mixed with flattening agent and polymeric nonskid beads. I wanted a neutral grey color that was not too dark and after much thought I ended up mixing my own color using Petit's Platinum and Mist Gray. For the first coat I used a 50-50 mix of the two colors, which a small sample had shown to be close to what I envisioned. However, after rolling it on the large deck areas, I decided that it was too dark and industrial looking. I had planned two coats anyway however, so I resolved to lightent the mix for the second coat. The photo shows the lighter grey being painted over the darker first coat to show the difference.

I found that the nonskid rolled on nicely using a 3/8 inch nap roller and applied a very even nonskid texture with only a few uneven areas. The second coat increased the nonskid texture and helped even it out further. I found the Pettit nonskid additive to provide a quite aggressive nonskid texture?more so than the similar Interlux product.

Rachel · Post by **Rachel** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:48 pm

Thanks, Nathan, those are great. I'm glad you posted lots of them. And although they are all nice, the "Anchored in Merchant's Harbor".... Wow.

--- Rachel

Peter · Post by **Peter** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:39 am

Awesome Awesome Awesome !!!

Thanks for sharing, Nathan.

tikvah59 · Post by **tikvah59** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:54 am

Great pictures Nathan, thanks. The one in Tim's shop with the pink and grey dots brings back fond memories. I do not mean to make anyone feel bad, but it's been months since I had to sand fiberglass.

You probably know this, Nathan, but you have a great eye. You should send some of them in to Good Old Boat - like the sunset or the one before the storm.

Mark

Post by **dasein668** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:57 am

tikvah59 wrote:You probably know this, Nathan, but you have a great eye. You should send some of them in to Good Old Boat - like the sunset or the one before the storm.

Thanks for saying so Mark. I do quite a bit of photography, though on the boat I consider my pictures "just snaps" as I'm shooting with a cheap digital.

I have other photographs on one of my personal sites HERE if people are interested. Not boat related though. The site requires the Flash plugin.

xroyal · Post by **xroyal** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:12 pm

Nathan, am I glad I stumbled over your priceless pics! You and Tim sure have set a tough standard to meet. I can't imagine you ever parting with her. Thanks for sharing!

John

Post by **dasein668** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:50 pm

Thanks!

Ric in Richmond · Post by **Ric in Richmond** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:28 pm

Fractional rigs just look so right!!!

(don't let my mast head rig Alberg 35 hear that!)

Boat looks great!!!

Ric

Post by **dasein668** » Mon May 29, 2006 7:52 pm

Figment · Post by **Figment** » Mon May 29, 2006 7:57 pm

Great shot!

and it reminds me of two questions I've been meaning to ask.
1. does your backstay flag halyard run all the way to the masthead, or did you lash a block to the backstay halfway up?
2. What color is the sunbrella of your sail cover? Julia and I are debating between oyster and silver for ours.

Post by **dasein668** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:14 pm

1) More than half, less than 3/4, see the first photo in this thread?the flag is all the way at maximum hoist. I used a stainless triangular ring, tied in place with waxed thread.

2) Silver.

FloatingMoneyPit · Post by **FloatingMoneyPit** » Tue May 30, 2006 12:16 am

Hi Nathan,
Reviewing this thread, I noticed the post about your non-skid.
Just how agressive is the 2 coats of petit? You haven't re-done it so I assume it's satisfactory, but is it more/less than you'd like? I'm planning to go the petit route myself.
I'm hosting a nude lotus yoga session on my boat this summer and don't want scuffed derrieres.
Actually, I'm not, but you get the idea.
It's way past my bedtime.

Post by **dasein668** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:06 am

I'm not sure how to describe the aggressiveness of the nonskid. It's fine for me, though it's still a little slick when wet. However I think that's because of the amount of deglosser I used (or lack there-of). I used about 3/4 of a can for about 1.5 qts of paint and I think I'd go a full can per quart.

The actual nonskiddiness of Petit and additive is fine.

Curmudgeon · Post by **Curmudgeon** » Tue May 30, 2006 3:57 pm

Figment wrote:does your backstay flag halyard run all the way to the masthead, or did you lash a block to the backstay halfway up?

Does anyone know what the protocol would be for a split backstay - would the flag go on the port or starboard stay? If I had to guess I'd go with port, as the courtesy flag goes on the starboard forward spreader, but not sure.

Figment · Post by **Figment** » Tue May 30, 2006 8:27 pm

There's nothing cooler than a nice simple detail like that.

rshowarth · Post by **rshowarth** » Tue May 30, 2006 10:40 pm

Please advise: What is a courtesy flag?

Post by **Tim** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:37 am

rshowarth wrote:Please advise: What is a courtesy flag?

If you visit a foreign country, it's typical to fly a small version of their national flag from the starboard spreader as a courtesy--hence "courtesy flag".

Post by **dasein668** » Wed May 31, 2006 7:21 am

Figment wrote:There's nothing cooler than a nice simple detail like that.

What are you speaking of, Mike?

Ceasar Choppy · Post by **Ceasar Choppy** » Wed May 31, 2006 10:28 am

Tim wrote:
rshowarth wrote:Please advise: What is a courtesy flag?
If you visit a foreign country, it's typical to fly a small version of their national flag from the starboard spreader as a courtesy--hence "courtesy flag".

In most countries, a "courtesy flag" is required... that is, after you have lowered your "Q" flag. The courtesy flag means you are out of "quarantine" and have been cleared through customs & immigration.

Figment · Post by **Figment** » Wed May 31, 2006 2:25 pm

dasein668 wrote:
Figment wrote:There's nothing cooler than a nice simple detail like that.
What are you speaking of, Mike?

The triangular ring served to the backstay.
Simple, elegant, perfectly adequate for the task.

Post by **dasein668** » Wed May 31, 2006 2:27 pm

Figment wrote: The triangular ring served to the backstay.
Simple, elegant, perfectly adequate for the task.

Oh, right. Thanks for saying so. I liked the solution myself. Plus it had the added benefit of costing about 5 bucks instead of 45 for a "flag halyard kit." I was also worried that a big gaumy block up there might chew up the roach of my sail...

Curmudgeon · Post by **Curmudgeon** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:33 pm

rshowarth wrote:Please advise: What is a courtesy flag?

A courtesy flag can (should?) be flown while you are sailing in foreign waters, and should be the civil flag of that country. There's some information on flagging at: http://www.waypoints.com/popups/flagetiquette.html

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Dasein, Triton 668; Nathan Sanborn

Dasein, Triton 668; Nathan Sanborn

Non-skid

Courtesy Flag