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the keel bolts look new.
if it wasnt for the condition of the nuts, washers and end top portion of the bolts, this whole step would have been have been avoided.
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no photo today as i am still head scratching......
ive grinded the bottom of the keel, no bolts are showing, they must be all tapped into the iron....
.....meaning.....ive (literally) screwed myself big time but cutting them flush.
im having a friend weld a rod so that we try and unscrew them tomorrow, if that fails then i guess i need a mag drill, drill it them out, and tap new bolt a size up from the current ones.

i read somewhere that the minimum thread size should be 2.5 x the diameter of the bolts at the minimum. let me know what you guys think
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I'd do everything possible to get the bolts out rather than tap new holes because that be easy.
The wooden boat guys on the following thread say at least 1 1/2 bolt diameters plus room for the taper at the end of the tap:

http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread. ... -iron-keel
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bolts out!!

at least the 6 main ones. 1 inch thick.
the only 2 that i am unable to take out are the 2 that i try do drill out, the fwd one (19 mm) and the aft one (12 mm)
i think i will have to drill them out. not particularly fussy about the aft one, but defo want to replace the fwd bolt
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If you have trouble drilling them out, say in case they are hardened steel, you may be able to sister in new bolts in new tapped holes nearby.
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i was able to dril them with HSS drill bit. had i kept quiet those bolts would ve been out by now.....
the main issue is to drill it as close to vertical as possible, i bought a portable drill press/guide to help out in the beggining. not really sure if its going to deliver.

i am trying to shy way from sistering, as i would like to use the hole in the keel stub instead of filling it and opening a new one. but perhaps i will have to go down that road.

for the keel treatment my schedule will be:
wire brush it
apply Primocon (1st layer with brush, 2 other layers with roller)
fair it

and after some research decided to actual laminate 1 layer of glass cloth on it
3/4 coats of plain epoxy resin
epoxy primer
bottom paint

the plan is to do it with the keel inverted so i can reach the bottom and sides in 1 go. the top will be done after and overlapping the layers.

this will force me to get a decent rubber mat in which to roll the keel so i dont scrape the products off of it
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bilge floor, before and after
did a couple of straight epoxy pours to level most of the surfaces, then applied thickened epoxy beneath the 6mm thick G10 sheet., finally one layer of biaxial cloth was laminated on top.
need to knock some peelply bubbles, fair some rough spots and on to paint.! will dril the keel bolt holes from outside
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this is actually 2 boards butt joint together to make final lenght of 2.4 meters
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keel up right
got it done this morning. some nasty dings from trying a controlled roll over (which didnt went so well..) but nothing that some sanding and fairing wont cure.
the red pain is antifoul. decided to paint some AF while i had good access (will touch up right before splash)
the green stuff if epoxy primer, the brown in some fairing, near the top is still on bare fibreglass as i will be laminating a continuous strip of cloth around the keel to protect the hull-keel joint.
the very top received a couple coats of primocon and 2 layers of cloth today.
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nose piece out

was expecting a bigger fight so cant really complain
the piece is chromed bronze but it has been painted 3 times already
im having it chromed again to go with the stainless guardrail i will install at a later stage
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also wasnt expecting this big void
im thinking to cover the inside of the nose piece with packing tape, thicken some epoxy and set the nose piece in order to fill all that and obtain a better surface contact between the piece and boat. plenrty of squeeze out to deal with though.
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these pieces keep the transducers flat and parallell to the bottom
the circular ones are placed inside the hull and the eliptical ones, outside.
They definitely arent perfect and still need to be trimmed to a certain deadrise but it will work and will never rot as they are made of 30mm G10
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got this done a couple fo weeks ago
stanchions and pulpit/pushpit bases epoxied into the toerail
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Got the round pieces epoxied and lightly glassed in.
was able to get them pretty flushed.
Next week will do the elliptical ones on the outside
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fwd end of the bilge, before closing with G10 board
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aft end of the bilge before
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aft end of the bilge after
also check the marelon ball valves. the one on the left its a 2 inch, on the right its 1 1/2 inch. these things are GIGANTIC.
didnt even occured me to see the the overall dimensions upon ordering as i was only focused on the diameter. the 2 inch one is so ridiculously big i will have to build around it when times comes to glass my water tank in.
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building the taper around the stanchions base so that water doesnt poll and flows aft to the drains.
used cheap duck tape to build the dam. then poured slitghtly thickened epoxy into. it is a quick, easy and cheap method but the weight of the thickened epoxy (and even plain epoxy) makes it "belly out" at times, for which (even) more sanding will be required.
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after tape removal.
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starboard side deck drain.
used pvc pipe and 45 degrees elbows to build it, then slapped some thickened epoxy and cloth around it. guess itsd there to stay.
did the same on portside
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insertion of G10 (composed of 3 piecesx 6mm thick) into the sheerclamp to replace a rotten section.
it was then glassed over with one layer of biaxial.
in this specific location there will be a babystay chainplate applied outside. i will add another piece of G10 to increase the thickness and applying 3/4 more layers of cloth.
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some fairing
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apparently im the kinda of person who, once the can of 407 is cracked open, has to use all of it!
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and this is what happens when you dont babysit things long enough
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decided to switch gears from all that fairing today
not that it was a much nicer job as it involved removing paint from all hull-bulkheads tabing. but it must be done since i want to reinforce all of it on the boat.
used a belt sander which makes for an quick job, but makes an absolute mess. it does create unevenness on the wood and fibreglass, but its all going to to faired aniway even it its out of sight

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look at the layer of dust!! im hosing the inside once all the tabing is done
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more holes to fill.
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frame out
is it possible to observe that the top section is bent, so its need correcting
it will also be polished to mirror like finish as opposed as being painted

i am stiil thinking about the final solution when it comes to altering the its design. i definitely want to keep the frame as it is, in essence, a great shortcut from having a deck stepped mast to keel stepped one, not only making for a stronger boat overall but keeping the market value up in the future.
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the removal of the frame further exposed the aft corner piece
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previously installed and also bent
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ths situation on the fwd face:
the top wood piece was hiding the metal piece
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back to the aft face
we can see those 3 metal tangs which are screwed onto those laminated braces (the portside one being rotten). it was on these metal tangs that the bolts threaded thru the frame would sit and exerting upward pressure to counter the downward pull of the mast
i thought up until today that those tangs were welded to the corner piece
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i ended up removing all the metal pieces and cutting up the original fibreglass headliner on the v berth to access and remove those wooden braces
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As i said before i dont have final solution when it comes to the deck reinforcement.

I am leaning towards a option where i replace the corner pieces with a flat sheet of metal, which follows the underside contour of the deck on the main bulkhead with extra supports welded at 90º to replace the wooden braces i removes
seen from the side this supports would take the shape of a triangle. this would be done on the fwd face.

on the aft one, maybe extend the frame, height wise, then install a steel plate to the underside of the deck and using the bolts as the "stoppers-adjusters" to keep everything tight.

i would be reinforcing the deck underside by laminating some biaxal and a 3 mm thick G10 board in a effort to make everything square before installing the steel pieces.

Would be great hearing from you guys
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With stainless angle bars on front and back I'm surprised they bent at all. I think if you replace those with bigger angle bar backed by aluminum or stainless vertical flat plate and your large U-shaped weldment brace on the forward side you will get good support. You can augment the forward vertical supports any way you want but it seems the weak point is not there, its the unsupported center span that is the only thing bending. One that center span is augmented in any way that's convenient it will be strong enough. And yes, adding some G10 and fiberglass under the deck is a good way to start.
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