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Rachel

David VanDenburgh wrote:It looks like someone put a new garbage bag over the pedestal, so maybe she's got family.

Good to know she's being looked after ;)

(Not that I've never neglected a boat but that just struck me funny.)

Rachel

I thought it looked like this had four (one elongated and three regular), but then the SS 30's I saw - although they did have four ports - did not have the elongated one.

Could we have more photos when you get a chance?

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Hmmm... I don't think it would be a Bristol because if so, the cove stripe should have a sort of arrowhead shape at the bow, and this one looks straight. Also, something about the rounded coach-roof corners doesn't look quite right. Then I was wondering if it might be a Sea Sprite. The SS30 has a sl...

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Let me add my thanks, Tom, for your good advice, details, and photo. Even though I made a suggestion for covering the mast (for some fleece under the housewrap), I was not all that comfortable with it. But the original poster said he had no other option than a mast rack for storage, so I was trying ...

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That would be nice - I was wondering how the dinghy ID turned out. Definitely modern to upload photos ;)

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PS: Seeing that Skipper 20 brought up a funny memory. Back when I was shopping for my first sailboat, I had not done much ocean sailing (and information was not so freely available on the Internet). I saw one for sale in a magazine's classified section and called the fellow who owned it. We got to t...

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Looks like a Skipper 20. Here is a club with photos: http://www.islandcutter.com/skipper20/gallery/index.html And a couple of photos from that page: http://www.islandcutter.com/skipper20/images/moondance/port-bow.jpg http://www.islandcutter.com/skipper20/images/moondance/port-stern.jpg (Not sure if ...

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Beautiful photo - I love the light - and your boat always looks neat as a pin!

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I wonder if some sort of Tyvek/fleece combination could be an option? Of course open air is best, but fleece is super non-abrasiony, and doesn't tend to try to absorb water since it's synthetic. You can get the lesser-quality fleece cheaply at -Mart type stores (which should be adequate). Something ...

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Figment wrote:Well it just figures that you'd have the best boat-stuff vehicle ever!

With a surfboard on the roof of course!

:D

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Hulukupu wrote:Agreed. Two of my ports looked like a kindergarten class had been given a tube of silicone...

You have my deepest sympathies.

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Well of course this got me curious, so I went and looked up the Product Data Sheet for Cetol Marine Gloss (which, interestingly, is now a part of Azko Nobel, of which Interlux is is a member of the umbrella/family). They say "Do not thin." I don't know enough about Cetol's coating chemistr...

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Just for the record :) I hope you won't mind if I post a few of your photos here; I do read your blog whenever you post, but too, it's nice to not have a thread just sort of die off, for those who have been reading along. (If it is a problem, let me know and I will edit this post to remove them. Oh,...

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The prior owner told me he had 10 years ablative paint on the hull, and prior to that, perhaps 10 years "vinyl paint"; whatever that is. That's interesting. Usually vinyl paint (such as VC-17) is one of those paints that you can't put anything over (the solvents in it lift other types of ...

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standing riggins 1/4in and sails are almost new...in this regard finding a proper mast would be good. Okay, well then here is an idea: You could find a mast that is slightly taller than what you need, and then cut it down to exactly fit your rigging and sails. Usually it's possible to take some off...

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... just for fun how high would you judge the mast from these info? my guess is 32ft, if I am over by 1ft then all riggins must be changed right? Well, from measuring the drawing I figured around 30'. I used the same scale to measure some of the other dimensions and they also came out close to what...

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I actually never realized/thought that the cabin "sides" were cored. Interesting! I guess it makes sense, now that I think about it, for the after side since it's a rather large, flat "slab" of fiberglass.

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I cant find the mesurments thats one reason I am going junk. You may have additional reasons for wanting to go with a junk rig, but if it's for lack of measurements, I wonder if you couldn't get pretty close by extrapolating from these? Rig Type: Masthead Sloop I = 30.8ft. / 9.39m. J = 9ft. / 2.74m...

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It's a little hard to see the details (I understand why though), but... Victoria 18? (By the way, the Victoria 18 did have some variation over the years, so if a detail or two don't match it may still be one.) (On the other hand, although even in these photos there are various rudder styles.... what...

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I've seen ablative build up on boats that don't get out much. After some years they were soda blasted to get back to (in their case) the barrier coat and start over. (Not sure why they kept adding coats before that - maybe the ablative can lose efficacy before it "ablates" if the boat is n...

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Blisters/barrier coat is a topic with many opinions. I happen to think the hydrolysis idea probably has some merit, but I don't think it's something that "melts" a hull in a short period of time. Here is the basic idea of that theory, as I (a non-chemist) interpret it. I may be wrong: All ...

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Although I don't know the exact type of holes or patches you are making, in general I would vote for using the biax. Off the top of my head, I think one layer of 1708 comes out to about [Edited] 3/32" [I had written 3/16" but that can't be right as it's almost 1/4"].... I will have to...

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Size of hole+glob of caulk filling gap between that and the stern tube=yikes. I bet you are glad you took that out, and it's fairly clear that it must have been leaking (mine didn't show any signs of that - maybe the hole was a tighter fit). I think having to fill that in to make it fit would put me...

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Hmmmmm - What do you suppose the difference might be, between a residential barge, and a house-boat? - I wonder. - Do you think there could be some kind of tax relief on barges vs homes? I don't know about tax angle(s), but perhaps a houseboat has some sort of propulsion (or did at some point, or i...

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Ditto! Thank you.

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Well, as I said Rachel, I saw this vessel in Port Townsend WA. Well that part must have been in invisible ink ;^) But I got curious. It looks like it might be a fishing vessel, although I've sure never seen one just like that. I did find a Washington-based fishing company named Alaska Trident, with...

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Skipper599 wrote:What on earth would this boat be used for?

I went to look in the documentation records, just to see what it said, but there were quite a few "Tridents." Do you know her hailing port (or even general home area)?

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My guess would be similar to yours. I'm thinking that on wooden boats the glassed-in-tube option would not have existed, and so maybe this type was more popular then, so they used it? Along the same lines, their rudder evolution: 1) Very early boats: Wooden planks with drift pins. Tried and true. 2)...

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Understood - you have to be in the right mood to read them, or else hair-tearing can ensue.

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Well that's just an illustrator idiosyncracy, I think (but yeah, why do that). Boats of less than 20 meters can have a combined sidelight (or a non-combined - allowance of the combined is an "exception" for smaller boats whereas non-combined is the standard), no matter whether they are sai...

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Okay, well, the tricolor (at top of mast) is not legal when steaming because the steaming light has to be positioned "x" distance above the sidelights/stern light. That (obviously) can't be achieved if those lights are at the top of the mast. (I think that distance is one meter but I will ...

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No not a trick question. Not a genuine one either, of course, more a suggestion for pause to consider that the original builders might have brought some thought and experience to bear on the decision back in the day. Okay, I hear you on that. I guess I have seen enough evidence that brings to mind ...

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To clarify: 1) I would remove the original sidelights (presuming they are the type on the sides of the cabin) and replace them with a bi-color (single unit with red and green) or possibly two separate lights, but either way on the pulpit. I think this gives the best visibility, especially under sail...

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As far as I know the original sidelights on the Triton are legal (if they are the ones on the cabinside and not below the gunwale), but I would would put in a strong vote for a bi-color on the pulpit. much more visible, especially if you have sails up. Also you can consolidate the wiring. On an earl...

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Figment wrote:[devil's advocate]

So, why was it built with the external tube unit in the first place?

[/devil]

Wait, is that a trick question? Or...?

(I have some ideas about why it might have been used, but... I might not be "getting" your question.)

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Okay, here are a few photos that will probably look familiar to you. The outside piece: outer 1.jpg outer 2.jpg The inside stern tube area, "before." With Whitby caulk volcano ;) inner 1.jpg After the caulk was removed (that was fun) caulk gone above.jpg Another view (that flat "shelf...

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Hi Jim, That looks like the original Alberg 30 stern tube, and the inside looks original too (I recognize that mountain of caulk). From what I know that's Thiokol, which as far as I was able to determine is basically polysulfide. While there is nothing horribly wrong with that stern tube arrangement...

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I've always really liked a formula that was in one of the Pardey's earlier books when it comes to selecting chain size and type. They explain how it's windage (vs. weight of boat) that drives the selection and then explain how you can calculate for your own boat and there is a chart showing various ...

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I'm thinking perhaps a 3/8" shackle will fit? Acco 5/16" Proof coil chain shows a minimum inside width of .50" acco.jpg For shackles, I like the Crosby brand - either in HT (high-test aka G4) or "regular" (with the red pin) as they are US-made. Here is their website: http://...

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I love it when someone else asks a question that was not on my immediate list, but that I've often wondered about. Just for the record, my "guess" is that one might want to keep tension on to prevent shock loading if/when the rig moves around? Especially since the boat is no longer moving?...

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Sounds like you had a great season, even with the less-than-ideal job schedule. Sounds like you have good shrink wrappers there and they will probably put on a nice cover with all the necessary goodies. I would put in a big vote for a door in the shrink wrap. On nice days you can open it for even mo...

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I just noticed that yesterday - out of the blue - I dredged up a 3-1/2 year old thread to mention that I was now enjoying a nicely improved version of one of my Mac's included applications..... not knowing that only a few hours later Steve Jobs's passing would be announced. Weird coincidence. From w...

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Interesting. As I'm sure everyone has noticed by now (probably to their annoyance ;), I tend to be curious about things. So I wondered what was in the Copper Cream (I remember polishing silver with Wright's Silver Cream as a kid). Here is what the MSDS has to say: wcc.jpg Of course then I became cur...

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Hi Maine Sail, First of all, thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. I understand where you are coming from on your calls to various manufacturers, etc. Just so you know, I have zero problems with the price of your butyl. It may be "three times as much" as some you can find, but...

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Ray, I'm really glad you did report back. This thread was started to talk about butyl tape and where to buy it, so you are completely on topic. This next part edited because I found my second roll of butyl and so have more information: What you have there sure doesn't look very "butyly." G...

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So, does anyone have any idea what the make of this dinghy might be? ... I have a photo, but the forum won't let me upload it and I have absolutely no patience for messing around and trying to resize it (current technology should allow resize the photo automatically, but whatever) A photo would be ...

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Boy...Sensitive folks today. Just presenting my point of view on what I have done & ought to do in the future..... I'm sorry if I seemed too sensitive. Your post motivated me to present my point of view as well. Oh....Hey Rachel....remember me?? A Free replacement Instrument panel shipped from ...

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Here's something I've been wondering for awhile: I've seen where posters "draw" on photos or diagrams (for example you circle an item and say "this spot here"), but I can't figure out how to do it although I'm sure it must be something relatively simple. Major dredge, but I ran ...

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I used to spend hours trying to re-invent the wheel too.... I'm not sure if that was directed at me (since I asked some of the questions in this thread), but it so I think we are looking at this from a different perspective. I didn't ask my questions in the sense of reinventing a wheel, but more be...

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