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by atomvoyager
Sat Jun 19, 2021 7:48 am
Forum: Pearson Triton Specifics
Topic: false keel
Replies: 23
Views: 285

Re: false keel

Maybe someone else can give you an idea but meanwhile you could drill a hole inside and outside in likely spots and if it doesn't drip out fast enough drill more holes in other spots. Maybe try compressed air for the outside hole or a vacuum on the inside one. You could also try a moderate amount of...
by atomvoyager
Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:06 am
Forum: Pearson Triton Specifics
Topic: false keel
Replies: 23
Views: 285

Re: false keel

If that glob of thickened resin is truly in the way and you can't just layup fiberglass over it then if a chisel is too short to reach you could take a long bolt or piece of rebar and grind a chisel point in one end and go at it with a hammer. The other option might be to apply thickened epoxy on th...
by atomvoyager
Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:47 am
Forum: Pearson Triton Specifics
Topic: false keel
Replies: 23
Views: 285

Re: false keel

What we know about the construction history of these newer boats with internal ballast plus your own observations on the exterior confirm you don't have a false keel situation so that disappearance of the woven roving in the photo could be thickened resin on top of the roving. If concerned you could...
by atomvoyager
Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:58 am
Forum: Pearson Triton Specifics
Topic: false keel
Replies: 23
Views: 285

Re: false keel

If it was my boat I'd cut out the remaining false bilge bottom, apply fiberglass and thickened resin as needed to support and seal the rudder shoe area and paint it all with white epoxy barrier coat Interprotect 2000e. The reason I use that in bilge, cockpit lockers and chain locker instead of a sin...
by atomvoyager
Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:58 am
Forum: Pearson Triton Specifics
Topic: false keel
Replies: 23
Views: 285

Re: false keel

From an earlier thread on Triton keels someone explained the false keel that is supposedly only found on pre hull #382 external ballast Tritons so yours must be internal with no false keel. If yours is internal ballast, either the factory or a previous owner must have added the foam and some glass a...
by atomvoyager
Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:05 am
Forum: Pearson Triton Specifics
Topic: false keel
Replies: 23
Views: 285

Re: false keel

On my Triton and the one I refit recently there is no false keel with foam or if there is it is small because I have about 28 inches from cabin sole to bottom of bilge. Apparently you have a shallow bilge version with a large foam fill area. Both of these are 1963 east coast Tritons with hull number...
by atomvoyager
Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:47 am
Forum: Pearson Triton Specifics
Topic: false keel
Replies: 23
Views: 285

Re: false keel

I haven't done this job myself yet but I'd agree that poly resin is best here and I'd want to add some fiberglass inside where you cut away the keel for the shoe. Where did you source the bronze shoe? I'd like to do that on my boat and thought I might need to build a shoe from a stainless pipe welde...
by atomvoyager
Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:40 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Introducing Katie-J
Replies: 77
Views: 2461

Re: Introducing Katie-J

I mentioned in my post to you on May 6 that bronze may not be affordable if you can't find old scrap like prop shafts to have machined to size. In that case I suggested galvanized steel. I don't have much experience sealing and protecting steel and iron so you probably have a better idea than myself...
by atomvoyager
Thu May 06, 2021 3:01 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Introducing Katie-J
Replies: 77
Views: 2461

Re: Introducing Katie-J

Hard to get a consensus on anything like this and to know how to filter out what's not important to your situation. And my opinion is not necessarily better than all the rest.
Yes, all thread is OK.
by atomvoyager
Thu May 06, 2021 9:50 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Introducing Katie-J
Replies: 77
Views: 2461

Re: Introducing Katie-J

As for filling with thickened epoxy. It may be OK in this application since there will be little flexing involved but thickened epoxy is brittle and may be better to use it in small amounts over fiberglass cloth for max strength.
by atomvoyager
Thu May 06, 2021 8:47 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Introducing Katie-J
Replies: 77
Views: 2461

Re: Introducing Katie-J

You had asked me earlier which keel bolt material is best. I said bronze but that may not be the most practical or affordable. You might be able to have them turned out of scrap prop shaft material. Bronze is best because it will last forever and the corrosion of the keel next to them will take fore...
by atomvoyager
Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:50 am
Forum: Boatbuilding and Repair Techniques
Topic: Mast winch bases and seacocks
Replies: 2
Views: 111

Re: Mast winch bases and seacocks

I was going to mention my video on seacocks. I may not have mentioned in the video but you can make your own backing blocks if you don't want to buy the overpriced Groco version, but they are labor saving. There are many boats out there with ball valves screwed on to mushroom thru-hulls but not cons...
by atomvoyager
Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:39 am
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: How much awlgrip for topsides?
Replies: 6
Views: 128

Re: How much awlgrip for topsides?

For best results in roll and tip you need to work fast to keep a wet edge. Painting that outward flange will slow you down too much so you might just paint the vertical portion of the topsides and not the flange or bolts. Looks like the slightly dissimilar metals of the stainless washers, bolts and ...
by atomvoyager
Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:45 am
Forum: Boatbuilding and Repair Techniques
Topic: Good books on wiring
Replies: 1
Views: 41

Re: Good books on wiring

I don't own a 12v electrical system book I can recommend but possibly something like Sailboat Electrics Simplified by Don Casey would be useful. It has mixed reviews and may be out of date on things like LED lighting but could be a good foundation for you to learn from. Check the Look Inside feature...
by atomvoyager
Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:22 am
Forum: Materials, Sources, and Innovations
Topic: Cheap Battery Monitor
Replies: 0
Views: 53

Cheap Battery Monitor

Here's a link to a cheap battery monitor as an alternative to the pricey Victron monitor. He has an amazon link in the description. Price has gone up to $41 but still a good deal. I haven't used one yet but plan to try it on the next boat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6O76Okmt08
by atomvoyager
Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:07 am
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: How much awlgrip for topsides?
Replies: 6
Views: 128

Re: How much awlgrip for topsides?

Yes all paints need an addition of reducer depending on the temps, humidity, wind, direct sunlight on the paint tray, and speed of application. There is no set formula for how much reducer and how often. You get the feel of the conditions and how easy the paint is going on and if the brush is draggi...
by atomvoyager
Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:59 am
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: How much awlgrip for topsides?
Replies: 6
Views: 128

Re: How much awlgrip for topsides?

I assume you're doing roll and tip rather than spraying. In my experience on your size boat you need about 1 qt of reduced paint per coat for topsides and slightly less for deck, excluding nonskid areas. 2-3 coats are needed. From the application guide linked below it shows two parts Awlgrip Topcoat...
by atomvoyager
Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:12 am
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: Bilge Floor Crack
Replies: 4
Views: 101

Re: Bilge Floor Crack

If you have an early model Triton pre hull #383 with external ballast you have keel bolts that might allow some water in. If you have a later model with internal ballast then you may see the tops of the eye bolts used to lower the ballast into the hull. You can gut those off with a an angle grinder ...
by atomvoyager
Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:18 am
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: Bilge Floor Crack
Replies: 4
Views: 101

Re: Bilge Floor Crack

Not sure if you mean it's a new and large crack between the glass on top the ballast and the hull or if it may have been there in past years and you just didn't notice it. Or is it aft of the ballast in the deepest part of the keel? It could be from freezing rain water. Depending how your cover fits...
by atomvoyager
Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:48 am
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: Dissimilar battery banks grounding
Replies: 3
Views: 64

Re: Dissimilar battery banks grounding

This video may have answered my question as to why it might be better to have an AGM battery bank with Lithium house bank:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqT27KbxRec
by atomvoyager
Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:32 am
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: Dissimilar battery banks grounding
Replies: 3
Views: 64

Re: Dissimilar battery banks grounding

Benjamin, Welcome to the group. I don't have experience setting up lithium batteries yet but have done some research on it and expect to do so soon. I hope to avoid the dissimilar banks issues by using all lithium but my next customer may want to save money by keeping an AGM for the engine. If so, I...
by atomvoyager
Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:36 am
Forum: Sails, Rigging, and Systems
Topic: Furler problem on Alberg 30
Replies: 1
Views: 142

Re: Furler problem on Alberg 30

You can see in the mast next to you they have a different brand furler that does not use a wrap stop and stainless plate tang. My Harken doesn't have one either so it's not essential even on a Profurl or even best practice to rely on it alone to prevent a halyard wrap since it can be forced to rotat...
by atomvoyager
Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:24 pm
Forum: Sails, Rigging, and Systems
Topic: How to Choose Correct Whiskerpole
Replies: 13
Views: 812

Re: How to Choose Correct Whiskerpole

I saw the sticker on my whisker pole today and confirmed it says 10-18 EL-UXP. Not sure if they changed the model numbers since then but that's the type I always ordered. There are slight differences in the large inboard end and smaller outboard end which may explain the EL-UXP name rather than just...
by atomvoyager
Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:19 pm
Forum: Pearson Triton Specifics
Topic: Bimini dodger on my Triton
Replies: 1
Views: 115

Re: Bimini dodger on my Triton

My Triton originally had a track that the boom gooseneck ran along and could be adjusted up and down if you wanted more headroom under the boom as long as the sail's head had some clearance to the masthead. I now have the boom fixed in position with the bottom of boom 35" above the deck at the ...
by atomvoyager
Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:39 am
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: Wire Up Mast Without Dropping it
Replies: 3
Views: 102

Re: Wire Up Mast Without Dropping it

I've used 1/8" line with a small bullet shaped lead fishing weight to drop from the top of the mast as a messenger and then pull out with a bent wire. If your mast has internal halyards it's risky to run wires inside while the mast is up in case you get a wrap around the lines that hangs up lat...
by atomvoyager
Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:36 am
Forum: Materials, Sources, and Innovations
Topic: Cabin Lights
Replies: 3
Views: 114

Re: Cabin Lights

Yes, Alpenglow has a good reputation and I've installed a couple over the years. Mostly I've used marinebeam.com - bulkhead reading lights, dome lights, 12" touch strip lights, dimmers, bulbs to retrofit in older existing fixtures, and nav lights. The only problems I've had with them are someti...
by atomvoyager
Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:06 am
Forum: Sails, Rigging, and Systems
Topic: How to Choose Correct Whiskerpole
Replies: 13
Views: 812

Re: How to Choose Correct Whiskerpole

Thanks for clearing that up. The UXP on both ends with external trip line is what I got on the last three poles I bought for myself and other boats even though the West Marine order form said EL-UXP. The UTR may be only for fixed poles because the internal trip line may not function on a telescoping...
by atomvoyager
Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:07 pm
Forum: Sails, Rigging, and Systems
Topic: How to Choose Correct Whiskerpole
Replies: 13
Views: 812

Re: How to Choose Correct Whiskerpole

Yes forespar end fittings are confusing they way they list them. The UXP is the standard "latch" end with external trip line, which is what I wanted. The UTR looks similar but is called a "trigger" and has an internal trip line. UTS is a "socket". I don't know what EL i...
by atomvoyager
Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:56 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Introducing Katie-J
Replies: 77
Views: 2461

Re: Introducing Katie-J

It's an ATN Tacker for asymmetric spinnaker tack downhaul as explained here:

https://atninc.com/atn-tacker-sailing-equipment.shtml
by atomvoyager
Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:44 am
Forum: Sails, Rigging, and Systems
Topic: How to Choose Correct Whiskerpole
Replies: 13
Views: 812

Re: How to Choose Correct Whiskerpole

You could use the smaller pole if you took care not to overload it. The bigger pole gives you a better safety factor at the expense of more cost and weight and more awkward to handle. Is your boat a ketch with large genoa or cutter with large genoa or smaller yankee? If your headsail is not a large ...
by atomvoyager
Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:25 am
Forum: Boatbuilding and Repair Techniques
Topic: A30 Rudder stock stuck bad
Replies: 3
Views: 190

Re: A30 Rudder stock stuck bad

In the photo above you can see the shoe is stainless plates with a thick-walled pipe welded onto them for the shaft to fit into. Drilling and taping stainless is tough but maybe a local machine shop could countersink the bolt head and tap the other side.
by atomvoyager
Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:23 am
Forum: Boatbuilding and Repair Techniques
Topic: A30 Rudder stock stuck bad
Replies: 3
Views: 190

Re: A30 Rudder stock stuck bad

Not sure but maybe the shaft is seized onto a bushing of dissimilar metal such as aluminum that has swelled from corrosion. The new shaft should have a non-corrosive bushing of maybe delrin or bronze with some clearance and maybe packing material for reducing water coming up at speed. You could wrap...
by atomvoyager
Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:18 am
Forum: Pearson Triton Specifics
Topic: Stern Tube
Replies: 4
Views: 386

Re: Stern Tube

Since it was no longer needed I cut the tube off flush on the outside and plugged both ends with a wood plug and thickened epoxy and glassed in the prop aperture. I'd have done something less permanent if there was any chance at all that it would be needed again. But you have an inboard engine so th...
by atomvoyager
Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:26 am
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: Screws vs rivets for spars
Replies: 2
Views: 135

Re: Screws vs rivets for spars

For a pole topping lift both ss rivets and threaded fasteners are fine. For higher loads on thin mast sections I'd think rivets are stronger. Rivets are faster but threaded is better if you ever want to remove them. Some small and cheap rivet guns fall apart trying to use them with stainless rivets ...
by atomvoyager
Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:56 pm
Forum: Pearson Triton Specifics
Topic: Masthead casting
Replies: 4
Views: 123

Re: Masthead casting

The new mast on Trion Osprey was Z351 from US Spars in Gainesville, FL. The masthead fitting is for internal halyards and the chances of it fitting some other older mast are remote. Modern mast sections are all different shape from older designs like yours. Unfortunately there is no standard shape.
by atomvoyager
Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:16 am
Forum: Pearson Triton Specifics
Topic: Masthead casting
Replies: 4
Views: 123

Re: Masthead casting

There's only a small chance you'll find one off the shelf that fits. I never had luck with rig-rite because the discontinued items they list they didn't actually hove available when I contacted them. I haven't seen a masthead fitting of that exact design but it looks strong enough in its design at l...
by atomvoyager
Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:30 am
Forum: Tools and Techniques
Topic: Selma fids
Replies: 1
Views: 98

Re: Selma fids

Thanks for the links. I was just looking for a source the other day. I have a set of fids with the hooks on one end but sometimes want to use this type that the line lays inside.
by atomvoyager
Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:26 am
Forum: Boatbuilding and Repair Techniques
Topic: Alberg 30 keel crack
Replies: 4
Views: 232

Re: Alberg 30 keel crack

Flexible tanks are a lot easier to install and I've used them over the years. But I stopped using the cheap plastimo tanks because in my experience you have at best a 50/50 chance they won't leak within a couple years. The more expensive tanks using thicker plastic have a much better reputation.
by atomvoyager
Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:14 am
Forum: Boatbuilding and Repair Techniques
Topic: Second deck hatch
Replies: 2
Views: 120

Re: Second deck hatch

I've often thought one day I'd add a small hatch there but didn't get around to it. I don't see it weakening a critical area and the hatch frame adds some stiffness. I'd want to put in something larger like the Ocean 20 if space allows.
by atomvoyager
Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:52 am
Forum: Sails, Rigging, and Systems
Topic: Mizzen masthead inspection
Replies: 2
Views: 129

Re: Mizzen masthead inspection

Logan The safest option might be to remove the masthead bracket, polish and inspect it and if any sign of cracks or weakness from parts of it being undersized, weld some metal plates to strengthen it where needed or weld up a new fitting entirely. But the fasteners into the aluminum are probably sei...
by atomvoyager
Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:30 am
Forum: Pearson Triton Specifics
Topic: Rudder
Replies: 10
Views: 402

Re: Rudder

Bronze and stainless should be no problem together because they are close on the galvanic scale. Note that bronze props are common on stainless shafts as well as stainless keys. I see your gudgeons are take-apart type, which makes it easier. Did they have bronze bolts or peened pins of some type and...
by atomvoyager
Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:19 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Introducing Katie-J
Replies: 77
Views: 2461

Re: Introducing Katie-J

I assumed you would place the extra bolts below the others so as to keep the lowers a straight piece and spread the loads out further on the hull and make all of them a more conventional easier to machine shape from commonly available stock flat bar but maybe you have your reasons for placing them h...
by atomvoyager
Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:30 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Introducing Katie-J
Replies: 77
Views: 2461

Re: Introducing Katie-J

Yes your drawing was obvious and I was not discussing the turnbuckle attachment holes and yes using three bolts through the lowers into hull or bulwarks and four holes for upper shrouds was my suggestion to spread the loads better into the hull. Since I'm not an engineer or naval architect, it's jus...
by atomvoyager
Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:52 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Introducing Katie-J
Replies: 77
Views: 2461

Re: Introducing Katie-J

Others have dealt with a bulkhead in the way by offsetting the chainplate a small amount to get bolt clearance. But ideally you want the loads in line with the mast so your v-shaped plate seems to do the job. It has the issues though of needing a very large and heavy plate that requires extra machin...
by atomvoyager
Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:12 am
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: Rudder removal
Replies: 1
Views: 119

Re: Rudder removal

Hans Welcome to the group. It's been over 20 years since I pulled my rudder but I recall I needed to remove the rudderhead cap, drill/knock out the peened rivets on the pintles and gudgeons and bend and wiggle the hardware to get it off. If parked on dirt you may need to dig a hole. If on concrete y...
by atomvoyager
Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:00 am
Forum: Boatbuilding and Repair Techniques
Topic: Alberg 30 keel crack
Replies: 4
Views: 232

Re: Alberg 30 keel crack

Yes the internal ballast on the A30 is iron supposedly encased in polyester resin thickened with vermiculite or similar. I haven't seen any bulges in the keel from expanding corroded iron on any of the 10 or so A30s I've worked on. You can drill a few, say 3/8" holes into the area before patchi...
by atomvoyager
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:33 am
Forum: Sails, Rigging, and Systems
Topic: How to Choose Correct Whiskerpole
Replies: 13
Views: 812

Re: How to Choose Correct Whiskerpole

For an external halyard I've always used an eyestrap or narrow pad eye with swivel block for 5/16" line.
by atomvoyager
Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:47 am
Forum: Boatbuilding and Repair Techniques
Topic: Pearson Triton hull to deck joint
Replies: 4
Views: 231

Re: Pearson Triton hull to deck joint

On my own boat I approached it differently by ensuring each bulkhead, chainplate knee and cabinetry that reached the deck was glassed in properly to support the hull deck joint. The only long section between supports is inside the two side cockpit lockers and they are watertight lockers so if the jo...
by atomvoyager
Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:38 pm
Forum: Boatbuilding and Repair Techniques
Topic: Pearson Triton hull to deck joint
Replies: 4
Views: 231

Re: Pearson Triton hull to deck joint

I don't have any drawing of it but it seems to me to just be a flangeless butt joint at the point where the exterior rubbing strake is. I know of at least one Triton owner that filled the entire toe rail inside with foam of some type and glassed over it to tie in the deck to hull. Seems like an exce...
by atomvoyager
Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:17 am
Forum: Pearson Triton Specifics
Topic: Bow Roller
Replies: 3
Views: 231

Re: Bow Roller

I agree with Marvin here that having the anchor on hand is best. But since I've already done several roller installations for these size anchors, and wanting the roller to be positioned so it will work with a variety of anchors from Delta, ,Mantus, Rocna, 33lb Spade (as on Atom) etc, I found that 4&...