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Triton106

Well, the repower project is now completed. It was pretty amazing that after connecting all of the systems my friend Luke was there to help me with firing up the Yanmar for the first time. I did not even know if the starter would kick over but on first push of the engine starting button the Yanmar r...

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The next significant project is the installation of the gear control unit. Years ago anticipating that one day I would repower with a diesel engine I bought a used Moorse gear control unit from a closeout sale for something like $70/$80. But the unit was missing a few things like the brackets that h...

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Once the alignment job is done connecting fuel, water and exhaust systems went pretty smoothly and were uneventful. The electrical harness that came with the engine was heavily corroded since it had been sitting in the boatyard for the last ten years or so unused. I had to painstakingly sand out the...

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Well, that was about 10 months ago. The repower project was completed a few months ago. For whatever reason I procrastinated and did not finish posting the project here. A few days ago another Bay Area sailor Brad Low contacted me because he is in the process of repowering his Islander 29 and wanted...

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A few notes on the west coast Triton drivetrain parts dimensions: 1. Shaft - 7/8" stainless steel 2. Shaft Coupling (solid) - ID = 7/8", Flange diameter = 4", length = 2-1/4" (Buck Algonquin part number 50mcy004 for Yanmar 2GM20) 3. Flexible Coupling - diameter = 4.5", lengt...

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Well, the story did not just end there. Toward the end of the day after Rod and Rob both left I realized that I have not installed the new shaft coupling!!! So, in the near darkness Luke and tried to finish it that evening (even as the temperature was significantly cooling down!) since the boat was ...

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2) The cutless bearing is not full length - the old bearing is about 3" instead of the 4" length of the new one. Rod explained that when you insert the new bearing back in the stern tube you don't want the hammer it in too hard for it will be very difficult to take it out again. So after s...

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Well, if you thought I gave up on this project I don't blame you. But what actually happened is that I decided to do it the "right" way - i.e. to take this opportunity to replace the cutless bearing, prop shaft coupling, stuffing box hose. I also inspected the prop shaft and the stuffing b...

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I have confirmations from two west coast Tritons, #150 and #259, that the stern tube inside diameter is 1-3/8". I have not haulled out Triton106 yet and will confirm it (or report a different size).

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As some of you may know from my posting in Projects that I am repowering my Triton (#106) with a Yanmar 2GM20 and plan to replace cutless bearing, stuffing box hose, and coupling at the same time. Since the boat is in the water now I can't measure the stern tube to confirm the inside diameter. I pla...

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I glassed in the stringers this weekend. That's about it. These things always take 2-3 times as long as I would think. Kids violin performances and other family commitment eat up the rest of the weekend. I will post the pictures of the finished stringer next week (forgot to bring the camera again).

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Sunday, February 5, 2012 - Today I focused on milling the stringers and the top overlay pieces. I rought cut them and my friend Rob helped me shape, sand, and router over the edges. They took much longer than I expected (don't they always?) Here are some pictures of the finished products. They don't...

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Thanks Tallystick! I totally plan to do that. Here is a famous quote from the MAN (of course I am referring to Tim Lackey) Moving into the cockpit, I reached through the access hatch there and pulled the shaft forward to check the rough alignment. The couplings thunked together nicely, indicating th...

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> cut...the Yanmar...mount corners or you could use smaller mounts on the back--we use Vetus on our 3GM30 Thanks TPL, I thought about that. I tried to talk the seller into swapping the Yanmar mounts for R&D or other manufacturers' mounts but to no avail. But there is no sense in spending $200-$...

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Step 2 - rebuilding the engine stringers. The Yanmar footprint is approximately 14.5" wide vs. the A4 footprint of 11.5". That means I need to rebuild the engine stringers to accommodate the wider stance of the Yanmar. I am considering the following approach - sister a piece of 1.5" w...

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After years of discussion and who knows how many changes of ideas I finally decided to repower Blossom with a diesel - a Yanmar 2GM20. The Atomic 4 is running smoothly and I have always taken a good care of the engine. The primary reason I decide to repower now rather than waiting until when I am re...

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I just came accross this article in Classic Boat on Fisher 34 - the bigger sister to the Fisher 30 that Tim is rebuilding. Thought it might be interesting for those of you who are following Tim's project.

Fisher 34

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There is an documentary film being made about sailing on the San Francisco Bay ( http://www.sailingthebay.org ). Here is a brief summary of the film. I recommend this website where you can find five short clips of the film and ask those of you who can afford to donate to the cause. "Sailing the...

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Thanks Larry for the tip! I already posted the question there. I will post any helpful responses on this forum.

Thanks Paulus for the link to USA Sailing. I have skimmed the material over before. Like other sailing websites their treatment of the subject is a bit more high level than what I need.

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Great story! Any pictures you can share of the project? I love those engine rebuilding project pictures.

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Most people are familiar with the strong wind and wave conditions on San Francisco Bay in the summer months. However, not too many sailors know about the light wind conditions during the winter months. For example, for the last several weeks the wind strength has been in the range of 0-10KT with gut...

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Bill wrote - The vang for a roller boom attaches to the boom using two curved pieces of flat stainless steel with a lip that wraps around the top of the boom. Tightening the vang pulls those metal pieces tight around the boom and they clamp on tightly. Any ideas where I might find one of those? Or -...

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I believe the main reason for the 12" verticle drop from the exhaust elbow to the top of the water muffler lift is to prevent the water trapped in the lift from flowing back into the engine. Therefore, the distance you should be concerned about is the one from the top of the inlet (not the outl...

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I was running out of daylight and the temp was dropping so not really any time to fair. When I went back out to look at it and measure a bit, I noticed that they are almost perfectly level with the surrounding gelcoat except at the bottoms where they slid down. They will need some heavy sanding in ...

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Thank Tim! I don't know what I would do without your help. Here is Jim Baldwin's advice on how to deal with the gap and the strength of Triton frames: Will try to answer your questions: 1. Yes the 1/4" overlap (between the frame and cabin) is strong enough because there is little chance of that...

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With the frames on hand I took the first step on the project - modify the port openning to fit EC Triton frames. As you can see from the last post the two main differences between the EC and WC Triton port dimensions: (1) EC ports are about 1 inch taller, (2) WC ports are about 1/4" or so longe...

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I want to report back on the progress I have made on the WC Triton large port remodel project. I debated whether to start a new thread or continue with this one. I decided to go with this one so that other WC Triton owners can benefit from my struggles and avoid many hours of frustration with differ...

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I met Tom Watson for the first time at the Plastic Classic Regatta this year. As you can see from his website he is mounting an ambitious campaign to circumnavigate the globe non-stop via the five capes. We talked for a while after the race and found out we share a lot in common. Both of our sons ar...

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I received my order from Maine Sail today for three rolls of Bed-it Tape. I could not wait to see the difference between that and the Heng Industries butyl tape I ordered from MakariosRV.com. I cut a 2 inch piece from one of the rolls and stretched it horizontally as far as I could and it clearly is...

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Sorry for not being clear. The metal plates look pretty rusted in the picture. So in my mind I have discounted them as inappropriate for reuse. That's why I suggest that you use 1/2" G10 plates instead. The G10 plates will sit on top of the both the existing foundation and the oak plank which w...

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I have thought about this question from time to time whenever diesel envy hits me. In my case, the diesels I have considered are Yanmar 2GM20 or a small Beta (14 or 20 HP). In both cases the diesel engine mounting width (14.5" for the Yanmar) are wider than my existing Atomic 4 mounts (11.5&quo...

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TallyStick, James Baldwin also drilled through his port frames several years ago to improve Atom's large port window strength and to stop leaks. I use to place heavy plywood shutters over Atom's cabin windows before each offshore passage because I worried about their strength. Several years ago I re...

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Maine Sail, I placed an order today for 3 rolls of butyl tapes. For some reason PayPal did not allow me a chance to edit the shipping address before taking the order (you may want to look into it with PayPal). So, I am sending you a PM with the correct shipping address. I also send you an email to H...

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What I am about to ask might sound a bit desperate and may even be in my last ditch attempt to salvage a bad decision to order the product (or I could be bitter and say that I was misled but that would not do me any good). But are there any reasons to not use these less stretchy butyl tapes? In my c...

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Hmmm, I feel like I am interupting here but I just want report back the outcome of my order... As mentioned I ordered Heng's 5828 1/8"x1/2"x30' trimmable butyl tape from MakariosRV.com before I had a chance to read MaineSail's cautionary post here and the back and forth ensued. I called Ma...

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You may have already thought of it but I will mentioned it just in case... Why don't you just cut G10 to size and bed it in epoxy instead? My friend Rob did exactly that and seems to be pretty happy with how they come out.

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Thanks Maine Sail for your clarification. I spoke with the folks at MakariosRV and learned that the butyl tape they carry are sourced from Heng's. I then went on Heng's Industries website and here is what they say about their TRIMMABLE tape: Trimmable Butyl • Ideal for rubber roofs. • Off-white, non...

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Glenn, thanks and I will take some pictures. The original hull and lining combined thickness is about 5/16" (pretty consistent) the lense is 3/8". So between yesterday and today I enlarged my west coast Triton openings to match the east coast Triton frames (about 1" in height). I then...

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Glenn, et all, In reglassing the cabin trunk to the liner should the ultimate thickness be equal to the thickness of the lense (polycarbonate or acrylic)? it would seem that otherwise the inside half and the outside half of the frame pairs will not be exactly parallel if cabin trunk is thicker or th...

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Rachael, You took the words right out of my mouth. I saw Maine Sail's post right after I placed my order with MakariosRV . So, it was a D'oh moment when I saw Maine Sail's post. I had to scramble to tell them not to ship the order before I can resolve to understand the difference. BTW, MakariosRV do...

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Thanks Bill, I will check them out.

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I can't seem to find any butyl tape sources locally here in SF Bay Area. I have called at least a dozen window shops, RV supply stores, auto glass shops, hardware stores, etc... The only thing that comes close to it is 1/4" round butyl tape from a auto glass shop. I am rebedding my Triton dead ...

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That is really nice looking. Is that covering an existing fiberglass dorade or is it a new installation? I've been toying with the idea of building nice dorade vents to cover up the old fiberglass ones. I have a west coast Triton. There were no dorades before. The starboard side of the cabin top, s...

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Skipper599 wrote:Hey, it looks great but, please tell me, are the drain holes both in the forward compartment or one hole in each compartment? - - - Just curious.

Sorry, I just posted the project and forgot about it. Yes, one hole for each compartment.

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Rachael, Mike, you are right. I stand corrected, although I am not sure if Ebb has finally bolted Lexan windows on Little Gull yet. I went to see his boat last year with my friend Rob. I don't remember he had the windows done yet at that point.

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Mike, Sorry, I re-read my posting and realized that it is rather confusing. What I meant to say is that Ebb took the same approach to fill and gap between the hull and lining to make the window opening width consistent. He described a process which is very similar to what Glenn did. Here is a pictur...

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Glenn, Thanks for documenting your project with details and photos. I am about to embark on my own project (converting a west coast Triton with frameless windows to ones with bronze frames). I saw another Pearson Ariel (Little Gull owned by Ebb) that took the same approach that resulted in very stro...

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Well, I took the renewed mainsail back to the boat today and fully intended to test it and take some pictures. Unfortunately the camera batteries died on me. But testing the sail I did. After I bent on the sail I took Blossom (Triton106) out to the Oakland estuary and tacked back and forth from Coas...

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Mark,

I thought Bill was right on about the grommets at the foot of your main being designed for slug attachments. The slugs with the same diameter as the bolt rope can then slide in the original boom slot just like the boltrope would.

Ray

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Got it, thanks Glenn!

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