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Ok, I give up... So far this is what I can learned: Supporting polyurethane (similar to polyiso) board: Don Casey ("The appropriate insulation is rigid polyurethane, not styrofoam") Nigel Calder ("polystyrene should never be used") Practical Sailor SailNet Supporting extruded pol...

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I vote fractional for the reasons already stated by others. I would also add that I am considering one day potentially adding a bowsprit to my Triton to correct excessive weatherhelm. In that case I would attach the forestay from the masthead to the bowsprit and keep the current forestay for storm j...

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Thanks Kendall, Rachel for bringing up the polystyrene angle. It conflicts with everything I have read about homemade ice boxes. I thought polyiso is the preferred material but I am not so sure now. Going through Dow's website to look up the different extruded styroform materials only caused more co...

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That makes more sense to me now. Thanks Rachel! I envy people that can just pick up and go. As much as I love boats and sailing offshore it is only a dream to me at this stage. With three kids and mortgage and career it is going to be at least five years before I will be able to put my long dreamed ...

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Sometimes I can be real careless. In my last posting on this thread I wrote - One other question - do you use butt joint or halflap joint on the canned door frames? I found Tim's very detailed documentation of making a caned door for his chain locker bulkhead here: http://www.triton381.com/projects/...

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I am sorry to hear about Patience's recent unfortunate incident. I hope it is insured. That's a shame. Still, I don't understand why Debbie sold it for only $2000 for a Triton that just crossed Pacific with a Monitor on the transom and an almost new outboard!

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It seems that one project can lead to another in ways that is not intended or planned. I have been meaning to improve the ice box on my west coast Triton but that is very low on my priority list since I hardly ever use it. I have been working on the shelves above the port settee to enclose the forwa...

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Flipping through the latest issue of Cruising World I noticed another Triton has crossed atlantic successfully. The owner/captain single-hander is Richard King. I am curious how many Tritons have made Atlantic and Pacific crossings. I am aware that Jim Baldwin's Atom has done two circumnavigations. ...

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Oh, that's Alma, formerly Whisper. Robert Gray did a fantastic job restoring it and sold to Michael Ruiz last year. Here is the link to his website - http://homepage.mac.com/robertthegray/PhotoAlbum3.html.

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Thanks Tim. I was thinking of doing just that. After I adjusted the fence to be parallel with the saw blade the execution improved significantly. I have a lot more confidence to control the width and the angle of the dado groove. One other question - do you use butt joint or halflap joint on the can...

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Thank you all for your advice and helpful tips (safty or otherwise). I certainly learned a lot from this thread about not only canning doors but unexpectedly about table saws and routers. My own router is Porter Cable so my next purchase will be the edge guide in Dave's picture (I am also think of b...

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Kendall wrote - A lot of saws have the blade out of square from the factory (unless you buy top of the line, and even then you should check) it's specially critical if you want to make a precise cut. There are a pair of trunions below the table that the blade assembly pivots on and holds it in align...

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Thanks Rachel, Kendall for the tip. The tea and coffee soaking idea is really intriguing. I love ideas that make use of natural resources. Since I have to soak the prewoven cane in hot water anyway I may try that. What kind of coffee will work best? Colombian or French roast? :-) Quetzalsailor wrote...

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Thanks Tim, Quetzalsailor for your quick response! Tim wrote - How are you planning on cutting these grooves? They do need to be the specified size to ensure that the spline fits correctly. Why do you foresee a problem creating the proper width? I am planning to use my table saw and make two passes ...

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Hi All, I hate winters even in the temprate Northern California. It's not that it is cold here or wet (this year is drier than usual) it's the days are so short. It seems that no sooner than I get my tools out and set up the work space the sun is already hanging low on the western horizon. Sorry tha...

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Jollyboat, Thanks for the tips and offer. Unfortunately, a new main (or even used one) is not in the budget anytime soon. I spoke with a local sail maker about recutting the main. He did not think that it will be worth the investment. I guess I will have to live with it a couple of more seasons unti...

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Thanks all for the input. I agree with everything said so far and acknowledge that primary reasons for the weatherhelm issue I experience are related to things that are unique to Blossom. For one the main I sail with is at least 10 years old and has a significant belly cannot be adjusted away with o...

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I'll start a Monitor thread and will copy as much of the current text over as seems easy. There's another WindVane thread but that fellow does not want to use a Monitor due to his perception of the relative costs. Quetzalsailor - if you are referring to my thread on Norvane and South Atlantic pleas...

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There is a fellow linked on Baldwin's site who installed a Norvane on his Triton and it pretty much sailed him across the Atlantic to Spain. Thanks David. I did read about Pajaro's Atlantic crossing. That is a great reference point. I also ran into another Triton owner (Yuri) in Azores who also cro...

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I have been wanting to install a windvane on my Triton106 Blossom for a while but cannot seem to find the right vane at the right price (read < $2K). Recently a couple of new windvanes came on market that I thought I will ask the forum contributors to comment on their suitability for Tritons (or sim...

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Congratulations David! It's comforting to hear that Triton114 is going to a good home and that you plan to have Tim finish fairing and painting the deck and hull. Looking forward to the progress. Please keep us abreast of the progress with lots and lots of pictures.

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Corian is very heavy. I was surprised how heavy a piece of 26"x33" half inch counter top can be. After cutting out the sink hole it is a little better but still substantial. However, like everything else on a small boat it is a compromise. To me its easy to clean and toughness (longivity) ...

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Jeff, I am in the process of redoing my galley as well. I am replacing my Formica laminated counter-top with Corian. I happen to be redoing my kitchen at home and has an extra-section of Corian left. You can find a lot of information on Corian and how to work with it by Google-ing. I would recommend...

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Consider it a price you pay for living in the beautiful northwest ;-) On a more serious note I find it very frustrating that living on the west coast there are very limited opportunities to find some of the greatest classic sailbots which are plentiful on the east coast. Cape Dories, Morris Yachts (...

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What Tim said makes absolute sense. I have spent almost eight years and god knows how much on yard fees, berth fees, paid ridiculous price for parts, electronics, lumber, etc, etc... I am sure everyone else reading this forum has similar experiences. I never expect that my "investments" wi...

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Ok, a door with sound and odor insulations :-)

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Jay, Up to this point I have done the same thing, i.e. sand off the loose paint and apply another coat or two of ablative paint on top of the old paint. But I think the next haul out I am going to strip it down to the gel coat. For one thing I want to see the condition of the gel coat but I will be ...

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Zach wrote, The idea of ditching the head and hanging locker bulkhead adds great visual volume... but back to square one as there is only so much space to work with. That idea has been vetoed by the boss already. Privacy is a high priority. Adding a door between the saloon and head is on my to do li...

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Tim wrote: There are reasons why I don't try to design or envision too much without being in a boat and working with true, real-world 3D arrangements and mockups. What seems good on paper, or on a similar boat, often runs into serious execution problems when you try to incorporate it into your own b...

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Venting forward near the bow or the transom makes sense to me. The only thing I would like to understand is that, depending on the location of the holding tank, venting in those two location will invariablly involve much longer runs of vent hose. I understand that vent hose should be as short, staig...

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Taking another look at the cabin layout - I came across this picture from Morris Yacht Linda (also a 28ft) - Splendid - which sports an aft galley but locates the sink between the engine room and stove. Granted it is a beamier boat (9'2) but it could also work on the Tritons. http://www.morrisyachts...

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Tim,

Is that Lackey Sailing logo on the mainsail? Outstanding.

Regards,

Ray

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Yeah, Tim. Do it. As a matter of fact why don't you make an extra bowsprit while you are at it. I will place an order for one as soon as you decide to do it.

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No worries Tim. Your comments are protected by attorney client privilege :-) My only concern of the topside location is that most of the time Triton rails are under water. I don't know if water will be syphoned into the holding tank. David, the stanchion idea is ingenious. I have to think about that...

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Tim, The holding tank vent fitting looks like the Perko fitting I am about to install on my boat. I thought it was stainless steel but you stated it was zinc plated on your website. It looks nasty. I don't suppose you recommend it, would you? What are you planning to use instead? http://www.triton38...

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I think that is the world's largest chart table on a 27 footer. I love to see how the owner arranged to fit in the stove, sink, ice box, etc...

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Peter, Rachel is right on. Robert's decision to mount the stove athwartship is heavily influenced by the Pardey's. The theory is that even for long distance cruisers like the Pardey's one spends 97% of the time on hooks. During a voyage cruisers usually only cook when the sea is calm. In that case y...

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In my research process I called a number of fiberglass water tank manufacturers and asked them what resins they use and who makes them. I then called the resin manufacturers. In my case the resin manufacturers are sympathetic to my cause but were unable to help me since the minimum quantity they sel...

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Early model westcoast Tritons have built in water tanks in the bilge (see Ray Alsup's discussion on the condition of his tank - http://www.geocities.com/pegasus256/CURRENT.htm ) Needless to say after reading that I was not going to drink the water from my built in tank either. Nevertheless, I feel h...

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Hi David, I hope you find a good home for her. It's a shame these beautiful classic boats can sit there waste away. Too bad the couple folks I know on the west coast and I are up to our ears with our projects already. The only other person I can think of that could have an interest is Robert The Gra...

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Solosailor, Here is what John Garden said about CT34 and Tayana 37: From John Gardner (CT 34 Hull #20 - Type B built in 1978 - original owner who is responsible for the design of the Type B model configuration): I was told that the hull was originally done by Bob Perry but I have my doubts. I spent ...

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Tim, Britton, Thank you very much for sharing your insights and experience. Tim brought up a really good question I did not think about (what else is new?) Namely, I already installed mahogany rub rails on my westcoast Triton106 and the white space that will be created between the rubrail and wooden...

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Hi Tim, Britton, I think you guys did a great job on Triton680's toerails. I have been thinking about adding wooden toerails on top of the mold-in toerails of my westcoast Triton106. The westcoast Tritons' mold-in toerails are about 1.5 inches high and have a flat top section about 1 inch wide so it...

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I don't know if folks outside of California ever heard of the annual Plastic Classic Regatta in SF Bay Area. Their rules are pretty loose, basically any plastic boat manufactured 25 years ago qualify. Here is the field for the 2008 Plastic Classic. Note the turn out of Triton on the list. It is actu...

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Thanks for the info. I did not realize that. I also agree with you that cored decks are attractive from weight point of view but I really like solid glass deck for the ease of installing deck hardware. A couple of years ago I took almost all of the deck hardware off to repaint the deck and I remembe...

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I have heard from a couple people in the past that some of the west coast Tritons are cored although I never saw one until today. Actually I have seen this boat before but did not realize that it is cored. The boat belongs to Robert Heggen of Fortman Marina. I posted some pictures of the major resto...

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A few postings ago in this thread I mentioned that I saw another west coast Triton that was in the middle of a major restoration project and that the owner graciously invited me aboard to check out his interior work. Here is what I wrote then: I was very impressed by his galley/salon layout. It is b...

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Which boat will you sail (say they both cost $90K)?

Do I need to say more?

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Dave F., Thanks for your comments. Really good and insightful questions. I agree the goal needs to be more focused. How many people are there willing to pay $90K for a Triton? Not many, but I am also not suggesting that we need many. If we restore one a year we only need one buyer a year that apprec...

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Dave, your point is well taken. There are a lot of choices at $90K range. Depending on your personal preference and plan the Willard maybe a better choice. On the other hand for others that may want a lighter day sailer they will opt for a Triton "day sailer" that combines the classic look...

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