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A surprising find was that the brackets shown in the picture above, seem to be made from stainless - as are the bolts that pass through the rudder. I thought that stainless under water is not really recommended... Given that everything else is bronze, this was a surprise to me. That is surprising. ...

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but you do know what they say about people who hang out in and blocking the companionway? No, I'm not familiar with whatever it is "they say" ... care to tell us? Well, "they" say a lot of things, and none of them are complimentary. On a small boat it isn't an issue so much as t...

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Welcome Paulus. I don't recognize the name, but did you participate in the messing-about forum before? Lots of Weekender builders do. Pretty boat, in spite of the fact that none of us particularly agree on just what makes a boat a classic I think most if not all will welcome pictures of yours. ;>)

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Figment wrote:I know they need to shed water and all, but making the sill more broad and butt-friendly is definitely on my "next time around" list.

It sure is a comfy spot to hang out, but you do know what they say about people who hang out in and blocking the companionway? ;>)

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I have seen quite a few dogs on boats. Some seem to really like it and adapt well to dealing with the adversity it brings. Others seem totally put out, uncomfortable and a danger to themselves. It is the owners who are responsible for noticing which their dog is and acting accordingly. Your dog want...

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Skipper599 wrote:Every time I see pics such as these of very clean workshops and equipment I simply have to ask ... Hey guys, where the heck is the sawdust? Lol.

I have wondered about this too!

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There's no bonding these channels to the 'glass: aluminum moves more than 'glass with heat, and no bond would be strong enough for rogues, wet or human. I'm not so sure nothing would work. Aluminum frames for deck hatches are often aluminum and they don't expand and contract so much as to break the...

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Black Locust is a second cousin to hedge and I have seen it last almost as long outside. Darkens also but not as much as hedge. I don't know about it's relationship to Hedge, but it is surely a hard, rot resistant and very sturdy wood. Almost every Concordia has some on it. Some have coach houses, ...

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I believe that most cockpit-mounted bilge pumps have reversible mounts, which enable them to be "flush-mounted" through a cutout in the side of a cockpit locker. The handle is detachable, so the pump doesn't take up space in the cockpit. If I felt the need for a cockpit bilge pump this is...

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What did you use for the non-skid? I want to change the color of mine - right now the entire deck surface is plain white, but I like the look of the white deck with tan non-skid. Me too. I used Interlux Interdeck. 1 part, easy to use, creates a nice non-skid surface, 4 years and still looks good. E...

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My belief is that you should have, in addition to your electric bilge pump, at least two manual ones, one inside the cabin and one outside, in the cockpit. This is the requirement for the Newport-Bermuda Race and many other off-shore races. Some would consider it over kill on a coastal cruising boa...

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Building a rudder, especially as a one off project is going to take a lot of hours no matter what materials you use. I would rebuild it just as it was, but then I am a carpenter. You still have enough evidence at hand of how it is done. Just take pictures, draw patterns, measure and such before you ...

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I have read some people using marine plywood with a veneer. I'm not crazy about this idea myself having been in construction over 20 years and appreciate crafsmanship. Why? If you are going to use plywood this is the best you will find. You will find poplar plywood with a Teak and Holly/Maple strip...

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I am guessing that you have a Pearson 38 The Invicta and Invicta II were designed by William Tripp and built in the 60s. Your boat has teak and maple plywood panels. Real holly can be found, and is whiter than maple, but when an amber varnish is used the both yellow to where the difference is virtua...

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A couple trips to look at the boat with some careful thought in between is always good before jumping in. Maybe even bring a friend as well (he/she may see things you don't). But if you have found an Ensign that only needs the type of work you are listing (and I don't mean to seem like I doubt you, ...

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How well does oily teak hold when glued? Really well if done well. Once you are all set to do the glue up, have done your dry fit etc., clean the teak with acetone Then glue with epoxy slightly thickened with cabosil. Do the actual gluing almost immediately after cleaning or risk oil coming to the ...

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Propane fumes are heavier than air. Therefore ABYC has several criteria to make a propane lockers safe. 1. Sealed off form the inside of the boat. 2. Vented in the bottom with the final opening in the vent at or below the bottom of the locker (important if using a vent hose) 3. Located such that fum...

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Hatteras is your destination (interim or final)? Routes are a subjective decision in many respects. If I were going to Florida or more south I would go outside. Well outside of Hatteras. I would stock up well and get away from land, ship wrecks and anything hard I could run into. But if you are goin...

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. I will freely admit I am picky about aesthetics (read: boat snob) - while there are a lot of nice Alberg designed boats out there that would fit my needs well, they just don't do it for me aesthetically.. If you don't find Alberg designs aesthetically pleasing, what do you find to be so? I'm conf...

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I do not use butyl at all. If I did, the only application would be ports. This might change for ports though, I am beginning to like the idea of butyl in this application. Because it never cures it will always be prone to being squashed out when forces act upon the item bedded with it. There really ...

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I believe I'm going w/ Sikaflex 261. It sounds like it will stay put & resist yellowing as good as any of the alternatives. I think you mean 291. I comes in 2 versions: 291 and 291-LOT. The LOT (long open time) has a much slower initial skinning over. This gives you more time, especially in war...

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I've opined before (until the Flying Dutchman project) that my cheap or free boats ended up costing more than the one's I'd paid for. This is true of houses, cars, planes and many other big ticket items. Many have a hard time understanding this, but don't doubt it for a minute. Pretty boat though, ...

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You probably don't need any primer under bottom paint, but check the instructions for the brand you choose to be sure.

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The cabin top is not one piece but has a mechanically fastened section?

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It sounds like you are referring to a sea hood. It is fastened down over where the companionway slider slides to when open and covers just the forward edge of it when closed? If so, then it should be removed and rebedded to do it well. To get a good seal and a clean look at the seem I would use Sika...

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I would think it is anodized. And if so, then sanding is not a good thing. If it isn't, then sanding will clean it up, but it won't last long before pitting and such appears.

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Questions and Answers Ask a question...get an answer (or two). Can you explain more about the seam and the panels? What are the panels a part of; why do they have a seam; how wide is it, what's behind them? When you say cabin top, I presume it's outside vs. the overhead (?) etc. Thanks, Rachel Ummm...

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On a receint delivery I ended up in Oriental NC. The Marine Consignment of Oriental had several boxes of silicone bronze fasteners... On the subject of marine consignment shops, I had the opportunity to visit that shop a couple years ago and chat with the owners (husband and wife). Oriental is actu...

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That one is worthy of a frame.

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There really isn't an issue using S/S, but it will look funny.

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There should not be much if and expansion like there would be with plexiglas ports .... I don't understand why people say there is much expansion and contraction in port lights. Polycarbonate is extremely stable through a vast temperature range and acrylic is almost as good. If you are concerned ab...

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I would think the sail plan is nearly identical to that of an Ensign.

edit: found this:
http://www.pieliminations.com/Jollytime/index.htm

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If you can remove your frames in good condition then by all means use them again. Mine were so pitted that it wasn't an option. Some have even removed, sanded, cleaned and painted old frames due to the failure of the anodizing. There are many ways to do this project. Just be careful in making assump...

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I find them to significantly add to the strength of a joint. You've done stress tests to calculate the difference in loads required to break the joints? If making strong joints is the goal then use strong joints. Use a spline instead of biscuits for edge joints. For corners use a half lap, or morti...

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Here is a link to a thread that started out as a discussion of my interior trims and evolved into a discussion of several ways to do fixed ports: http://plasticclassicforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4783&hilit=Hirilonde+fixed+port+trims Discussion here sometimes seem to develop a life of their...

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......... you start at one end of the boat and then just "force" them to bend as you go and fasten. I think I remember Jerry Montgomery (the M-17 had those rails) saying that it was a two-or-more person/cursing job. . Yup. I don't know Jerry, but if he was cursing as he went then he was d...

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do-away with frames altogether and just attach acrylic or polycarbonate to the cabin sides... that offends even my (very low) aesthetic threshold. You will find several if not many of us who have chosen a method that offends you then. exterior: http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae106/Hirilonde/DSC...

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I use biscuits on interior 3/4 plywood walls with epoxy on the seams, and pack the biscuit joint with thickened epoxy and cabosil. Epoxy will not swell a biscuit. The whole reason for biscuits is that when swelled up they align the pieces. Structurally they do very little at all to the joint. I use...

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Better to find out "Now" than as you put the first coat of paint on. In the auto body business the first question we asked was "Did you ever use any Armor all". So Armor All is the silicone of the auto industry? There are so many short cut products that do more damage than good....

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A pragmatic solution and domestic harmony. It doesn't get any better than that.

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If it is up just below the deck then I don't see it as a significant safety issue. You can add a piece of hose and cap off the end of the hose with a plug (wood dowel?) and hose clamp. You are now as secure as when it was in use. You are sealing it off from an occasional wave in the worst case.

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If you're doing the big bitt on the bow, why also do little cleats? That's what I did (bit only), and I have what looks like the same bit. When I loop the mooring bridle over the bit and lash it down I sleep really well. A huge piece of bronze with 4 through bolts and a nice backing plate just bree...

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What remains can almost be "rolled off" like rubber cement, but not nearly as easy as rubber cement. Almost is the key word, and this is very typical of how silicone behaves. I know of no solvent that is of any value in removing the stuff. This is one of the primary reasons to hate the ev...

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It is either stain from plywood or balsa core... or it is teak oil (prior owner bragged how for 35+ years they oiled and oiled the exterior handrails and hatchboard tracks, and they were not very well bedded). Maybe, maybe not. Inspection and investigation are important in planning work for old boa...

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Even epoxy cleans up easily before it cures. So I may not even mask in some instances for epoxy. I am however a big fan of drop cloths, cardboard, and other protective materials. I can be a slob. Even I have figured out that you don't have to clean up the mess you never made.

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A couple more thoughts: 1) For caulk-like sealants, I don't really like the "tighten partially, let cure, then re-tighten" method, because I don't want the sealant to lose its bond to the fastener threads (which, by the way, clean off with solvent along with everything else before bedding...

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Even if I were to use S/S again, as Rachel already said there is no really corrosion issue, I would replace them. I don't trust old fasteners and with all the trouble you are going through to refurbish and rebed the hardware why not go all the way and know you have done it all? I would go bronze tho...

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Gaskets or bedding.

McMaster-Carr has sheet rubber and punches. I am not a big fan of gaskets for hardware, but if the surfaces are smooth they can work fine.

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Throroughly clean the site and the hardware first. Then apply a layer of goop to both areas (the entire meeting surface of the hardware and landing area of the deck). Using a spreader or your finger work the goop on both surfaces to assure that there are no voids (bubbles) in the goop on either. App...

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. But that would not address the request for an opening port above the propane stove I have just installed to entice her on board for longer cruises! I guess you have to do what you have to do, but a wind scoop will do far more for ventilating cooking fumes than a port near the stove. Just because ...

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