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Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 9:19 pm
by radicalcy
In an attempt to redeem myself for polluting another's classifieds post, I'm starting a new thread. Any Richmond or Central Virginia members, or members that keep their boats in the Rappahannock / Piankatank / Mobjack Bay area, get on board here.
To Bill T., I wasn't paying attention to your note, and read Deltaville Yacht Center, instead of Deltaville Boatyard. I'm also familiar with them. My good friend just launched his Nor'Easter 38, Sea Pirate there. The day of the tornado actually.
Any other Central Virginia members?

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:11 am
by Ric in Richmond
Andiamo sails out of the Severn River Marina off Mobjack bay and I am based in Richmond's west end!

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:08 pm
by radicalcy
Ric,
Good to hear from you. It's been awhile. Any cruising plans for Andiamo?
I realize that I didn't post my stats....
Sail a Columbia 8.7 and a Columbia Sabre out of Deltaville's Broad Creek. Live in Richmond's glamorous and often ridiculed West End.
Still need to talk to you about boat insurance.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 7:29 pm
by ILikeRust
Well since we're all chiming in here, I own a 1968 Pearson Wanderer 30, and as of last night, a very nice little home-built wooden dinghy, which I appears to be a D5, as seen here. I had been planning on building myself an 8-foot wooden pram dinghy, and even have gotten so far as to make the molds for it, when I spied this one on Craig's list. It's very nearly exactly what I was planning on building anyhow, and I got it, plus a set of "folding" oars and a nice floating painter, for less than I would have spent on the materials to make one myself. The seller built it only a couple years ago and barely used it before he had to sell his sailboat, and the dinghy ended up just sitting in his garage. It's very well built and is in excellent condition. A little sanding and painting to freshen it up and it will be like new.

I also live in Richmond "desirable" Far West End - in fact, I'm pretty much as far west as you can get in Henrico County before you cross the line into Goochland. I work downtown in Riverfront Plaza, east tower, for a big, evil, international law firm that has had some unfortunate publicity in the past couple months.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:01 pm
by Ric in Richmond
How about we all meet at Mexico or something one evening for dinner next week?

No cruising plans as of yet. We will see how the summer shapes up. Too much stuff to do these days!!!

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 8:35 am
by radicalcy
Ric,
Great suggestion!!! I'm good for dinner any nite this week, with Wednesday being my first choice. How about it Bill T. ? Up for dinner with a couple other crusty old sailors? And of course anyone else in the area that might be lurking about is more than welcome, I'm sure.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 8:55 am
by ILikeRust
Sounds good!

If we're doing Mexican, however, may I suggest the new Plaza Azteca instead of Mexico?

My wife and I had dinner at Mexico once and were highly unimpressed. Plaza Azteca so far has been quite good.

Of course, there are plenty of other places to dine out here in the West End!

One of our family favorites is House of Vietnam. They do Chinese, Thai and Vietnamese food.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 9:34 am
by Ric in Richmond
How about Thursday this week 630 plaza azteca?

It is near the Old Reynolds metals campus at Broad and 64. Real good food....but I still love Mexico. If you had a bad night you should give them another shot!!

Chime in here if you can make it.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 9:39 am
by ILikeRust
I actually was referring to the brand new Plaza Azteca out in Short Pump. It just opened a few weeks ago. But either way, I'm easy.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 9:59 am
by Ric in Richmond
Didn't know about that one.

Lets go with the Reynolds one if that is ok.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:12 pm
by radicalcy
Either one works for me ..I'm about equidistant from both. And Thursday is fine.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 7:50 am
by ILikeRust
OK, I just put it on my calendar. This Thursday, 6:30 p.m., Plaza Azteca at Broad & 64 at the Reynolds facility.

I'll be in my "day job" office clothes, as it's right on my way home from work.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:07 am
by Ric in Richmond
And of course I just find out that we have a rescheduled baseball game that night.....and it is Senior night for the sr players....so I don't get to skip that one.

I'll hit the next dinner with you all!!!

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:19 am
by ILikeRust
Well we could easily move it to another night, so everyone can attend, can't we? No reason why it has to be this Thursday. As I said, I'm easy.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:40 am
by Ric in Richmond
Nope....I am actually good this thursday. The game is actually FRIDAY but the email that I got about the reschedule had the 12th. I confirmed the game is FRIDAY so see you all thursday!!!

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 9:21 pm
by radicalcy
Wow, that was exciting....see youse Thursday.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 4:07 pm
by Ric in Richmond
Ok I am lame....I have to go pick up a new toy at Greentop at 7pm since the seller is willing to drag it down to Greentop from NOVA for me!!

I might make it back before you leave.

And no the new toy is not a weapon!!! But you might be able to make one with it....

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 4:32 pm
by ILikeRust
Oooh! A new toy from Green Top! One of my favorite places. I always veer to the right half of the store when entering, so you can tell where my interests lie.

Do tell, what is this new mystery toy?

Hmm... you can make one with it. Receiver? Upper? hehehe...

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 5:42 pm
by Ric in Richmond
Not from Greentop....Just meeting him there since he had to go there anyways....

I left a clue in my earlier post.....

Don't want to jinx the deal by talking about it before it is done....

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:46 pm
by ILikeRust
Ah.... hmmm... drill press or metal lathe, perhaps....

Well acquainted am I with the art of moving large, old machinery long distances. I have retrieved machinery from as far away as Woodstock, New York, various parts of New Jersey and Pennsylvania, as well as Charlottesville, VA, and brought it back here to Richmond - some for myself; most for other guys - I hold it until they can come get it or have someone pick it up on the way through. I also have received stuff from someone on the way through and held it for someone else to pick up later...

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:04 am
by ILikeRust
OK, so how will we know who's who when we show up at the restaurant tonight?

I'm 7'3" tall with bright orange hair and will be wearing a Fijian sarong. I know, I do tend to blend in a crowd...

But seriously...

I'm driving a black four-door F150. I'll be wearing my "day job" clothes, which means slacks, dress shirt, loafers and a navy blazer. I've got short, dark hair and wire-rimmed glasses (gotta get my eyes lasered someday...).

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:20 am
by Ric in Richmond
ILikeRust wrote:Ah.... hmmm... drill press or metal lathe, perhaps....

...

You are good. We need to discuss your tool proclivities!!!!

How about first person to check in do it under the SAILING CLUB MEETING?

If I get done quick then I may swing by. If I see the black ford truck I will come in.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:32 am
by radicalcy
I'll be driving a green Ford F-150 with a shell. I'm 6'1" with wire rims, and a grey beard. No idea what I'll wear until I go foraging for clothes...I'll find you.
Ric, hope you make it. Bill and I can stretch out the cocktail prelude a bit.
oh...my cell phone # is 804 441 5813

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:11 pm
by radicalcy
Bill,
Enjoyed dinner and the conversation. It was good to meet another Richmond sailor.
Ric, sorry you missed it. We'll have to do it again soon when you can join in. We should work on getting as many Corinthians as possible to join in.
Bill, the supply house I was telling you about is Ferguson, just off Parham Road, east of Staples Mill Rd.
http://www.Ferguson.com
2703 Ackley Ave
Richmond, Virginia 23228-2141
Phone : (804) 264-6400

Also, a link to Photos of my Columbia Sabre.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/radicalcy/ ... 530140936/

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:55 am
by ILikeRust
Yes, it was good to meet you, Larry.

I just can't believe all those awful things you said about Ric, since he didn't show up.

Ric, you should have heard him!

hehehe...

Hopefully Ric's machinery rendezvous was worth it. I've been there - missing one event in favor of picking up some choice piece of machinery. A man's got to have his priorities, after all!

Yes, let's have a get-together again some time.

Larry, this is the Rainbow I was telling you about last night:

Image

I know Ferguson. Haven't been there in years, though - their pricing and snooty showroom floor people kind of put me off years ago.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:46 am
by radicalcy
Bill,
The Rainbow would be a fun daysailor for sure.
No issues here with Ferguson, but I didn't go to the showroom. I went to the wholesale counter in the back. If you decide to buy your assorted pipes and elbows from them, let me know and I'll order via my wholesale connection and you can pick up there, COD.
Ric, twas Bill that made ALL of the nasty comments about you....remember, he's a lawyer.........
Larry

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:59 am
by radicalcy
Bill, If you'd be interested, I have a Victory 21, on a serviceable trailer, with a launching extension. I could be convinced to let it go cheap. The boat needs some work, but nothing insurmountable.All the hardware is serviceable, the rigging is good, and the spars complete. I have a main sail, but no jib. The trailer will need tires at some point, The boat is free, the trailer is negotiable.
Flickr link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/radicalcy/ ... /lightbox/
The trailer looks somewhat better than the photo. I did some rust removal and spot priming. The red marks on the hull were to mark areas that I planned to put extra effort into restoring the gelcoat.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 9:56 pm
by Ric in Richmond
I love the Rainbow. Sparkman and Stephens design. Sweet sailing. SPent thousands of hours on them teaching at ANnapolis Sailing School. If I had a dock out front of my house THAT would be my daysailer.

I did pick up a small 618 Atlas metal lathe. Sort of a starter lathe. It will come in handy...but I will always be on the lookout for a bigger southbend or similar. Makes a nice companion to my clausing 8520 milling machine though.

Need to get new belts for her and a gear. Great thing is Clausing (atlas) has parts for the tool still in stock!! Even Sears has parts for it!!

I am sure I deserved any and all comments....

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 12:58 pm
by Challenger949L
I just saw thread, I am in Fork Union VA. we keep our Saber 28 at the Seaford yacht Club in York County, and the long term project in the back yard here in Fork Union.
Jimmy Small

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:34 am
by radicalcy
Jimmy,
Did you have a Rhodes of some sort at one time?
Glad you checked in. Maybe we can all get together sometime when you're in Richmond.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:30 am
by Challenger949L
I did have a Rhodes 18 for a while, I sold it some time ago. I would be great to get all of the central Va folks together some time.
Jimmy

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:54 pm
by Ric in Richmond
We really need to have dinghy races.......

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:31 pm
by ILikeRust
Ric in Richmond wrote:We really need to have dinghy races.......
"Need"?

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 12:40 pm
by BristolJonny
Hey guys I'm late to the party, but I live out in King william (east of Mechanicsville). I haven't been on the board since I sold my Bristol over a year ago. This is a great forum though so I like checking back in :)

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 12:55 pm
by radicalcy
Bristol Jonny,
Welcome to the fray. Glad to see yet another member close by. If y're needin a sailing fix, here is probably a good place to sign on as crew. Dinghy races aside.....sigh.....lol. I have a Hobie 16 all but ready to go in the water...does that qualify Ric? My Coronado 15 may be ready for next year.
We should plan another evening of libation and lies...someone come up with a venue, and I'm there......Richmond,Mechanicsville,Deltaville, Matthews ...Just let me know.
Larry Wilson

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 1:03 pm
by ILikeRust
Well if all goes as (very loosely) planned, I will be on a sailboat tomorrow and Thursday, sailing down the northern Bay from Havre de Grace, MD to just below Annapolis.

That is, assuming I'm able to get the Atomic 4 engine running tomorrow morning.

An acquaintance of mine bought himself a Columbia sailboat a couple weeks back. Despite my stern warnings and advice to the contrary, he bought it sight unseen via eBay. I haven't seen it yet (because it's up in Havre de Grace), but he says it's actually in very good condition and is all excited about it.

However, it's been on the hard for at least a year and who know the history before that. He put in two brand new batteries and has cranked the engine, but couldn't get it to start. Since I currently am elbow-deep in rebuilding my Atomic 4, he's hoping I can figure it out and get it going. I'm betting I can. I'm betting it's just a gunked-up carburetor from sitting so long. I'll start there, and then make sure the points are clean. I'm betting I can get it going within an hour of tinkering. Just in case, I'm bringing along with me the carb from my engine, since I know it's good.

Unfortunately, I then have to fly to L.A. on May 31 and won't be returning home until June 17.

So unless y'all want to get together sometime this weekend - Friday, Saturday or Sunday evening - I won't be seeing you for at least three weeks.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 1:06 pm
by ILikeRust
Oh yeah - Larry - I took a look at that blue Rainbow when I was up at the boatyard on Sunday working on my Pearson.

It's a really cute little boat and looks like it could be a truly sweet ride. It needs significant TLC, though.

As I've said many times before, in regards to several other boats (and large old woodworking machinery), if I had some land with a big old barn on it where I could keep it, I probably would be all over it. I would be able to keep it out of the weather and work on it as I had time. As it is right now, I have no place to keep it and I wouldn't want to have to pay a boatyard for storage. Plus, as I have learned with my Pearson, it's really, really inconvenient to try to do major work on a boat when it's 85 miles away from your house.

For a few hundred bucks, though, I could see stashing that little Rainbow and then giving her the full Monty treatment. She really could be a sweet little camp cruiser.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 1:15 pm
by radicalcy
So really, all we need is a little piece of property, somewhere in the West End, with a hunormous barn....for about 50 bucks a month.....easy peasy....lol

Hope all goes well on your transit south from H'dGrace.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:57 am
by BristolJonny
Hey Ilikerust, if you need a hand at all with that atomic 4 rebuild let me know. My other hobby is old Jeeps, which had the hurricane 4 cyl. engine in it. The f-head 4 cylinder is a very similar design to the atomic 4. I also have a few specialty tools for it that you might not be able to find at your local Napa.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:57 am
by BristolJonny
Also, I'd be down for a meetup sometime soon!

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:06 am
by Ric in Richmond
So who is sailing this weekend.

Fairly certain we will be out on Saturday. Bermuda high doesn't bode well for wind though...

http://www.sailflow.com/windandwhere.iw ... meoffset=0


That is saturday 11 am forecast on sailflow.....not terrible...

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:34 am
by radicalcy
And here is Windfinder for the weekend.

http://www.windfinder.com/forecast/stingray_point

I may be sailing, but probably not on my boat, unless I can solve my engine issue (busted fuel filter bracket) fairly quickly Saturday morning.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:07 am
by Ric in Richmond
Is it just a bracket? That is what milling machines are made for!!! Have it here or at the boat?

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 2:16 pm
by radicalcy
A little more than JUST a bracket. It's the bracket and receiver for the filter bowl...I have an extra on the way to D'ville, the big question is whether this is the entire issue or not. But thanks for offering.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:01 pm
by ILikeRust
BristolJonny wrote:Hey Ilikerust, if you need a hand at all with that atomic 4 rebuild let me know. My other hobby is old Jeeps, which had the hurricane 4 cyl. engine in it. The f-head 4 cylinder is a very similar design to the atomic 4. I also have a few specialty tools for it that you might not be able to find at your local Napa.

Thanks. So far, no problem. I've got the Moyer Marine overhaul and maintenance manual, which I find indispensable. I'm actually on the downhill side of the rebuild now. The engine is mostly back together. I'm hoping to get it all the way back together this weekend and if I really feel feisty I might make it to the point where I hook it up and try to test run it in the stand.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:55 pm
by radicalcy
[quote][/quote]Well if all goes as (very loosely) planned, I will be on a sailboat tomorrow and Thursday, sailing down the northern Bay from Havre de Grace, MD to just below Annapolis.[quote]

So did that happen?

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:33 pm
by ILikeRust
radicalcy wrote:
Ilikerust wrote:Well if all goes as (very loosely) planned, I will be on a sailboat tomorrow and Thursday, sailing down the northern Bay from Havre de Grace, MD to just below Annapolis.
So did that happen?
Hell no.

Let's just say I had a very, very long day yesterday.

The whole psychedelic experience began when we arrived in Havre de Grace at 1:00 a.m. yesterday morning and checked into a Motel 8. The plan was to get up whenever we woke up, which we figured would be around 6:30, since both of us are in the habit of being early risers anyhow, grab breakfast and then head over to the marina, get the engine of the boat going, hang the sails, throw our stuff on board and hopefully pull out of the slip before noon. We were asleep by around 1:30 a.m.

The phone rang at 5:30 a.m. We got someone else's wakeup call.

Since we were awake anyhow, with plenty to do, we went ahead and rolled out. Keep in mind that I had yet to see this boat and had been told that it was actually in pretty good condition, and that all we had to do was get the dormant engine running, hang the sails and get underway.

I'll be diplomatic and just say the boat "needs work".

After two full hours of being on my hands and knees and sweating my brains out in the hot, dark, stinky engine compartment, I finally managed to get the A4 to wheeze to life and run pretty smoothly. But it would not idle. So we just let it run at a mid-range rev. I don't know what the engine speed was, because the boat has no tachometer.

While we let the engine run for about an hour, we pulled out the sails, which are in surprisingly good condition. I managed to get the jib on the furler without too much fuss or drama. I pulled out the main and found that it had no means of attaching it to the mast or boom. So we had to run out and buy slugs and the little connectors to attach the slugs to the sail. On the first trip out and back, I discovered that I (my fault) had picked out the wrong size slides for the mast. So we had to go back and return them and buy the right size ones. Then we had to install all 27 of them. I finally got the main sail on and it actually looks pretty good.

All of the running rigging, except the jib sheets (since they were in the sail bag with the jib below) were very weather-beaten, moldy and mildewy, so we ran out and bought new line for the main sheet, which I re-rigged.

The boat is now technically a sailboat, since it now has sails properly installed and theoretically you could sail it. If you could get it out of the slip and into open water. Which is pretty difficult to do, as we discovered, because as soon as you try to nudge the engine into gear, it conks out.

I'm pretty sure what it needs is to take the carburetor off, disassemble it and give it a good cleaning. I simply was hampered by the fact that I did not have the luxury of the time, facilities or tools to do it right. I did what I could down in the dark and hot engine compartment of the boat to get the carb clean, but it's clear that that engine has not run for at least a year, if not longer. I took the bowl off, dumped out about a teaspoon of gooey varnish, picked out the crud I could, made sure the needle and float worked, and filled the bowl with fresh gas, but I'm thinking it really needs a more thorough dis-assembly and cleaning. If I had more time and a nicely-lit workbench where I could leisurely work on it, I would have. But we were trying to get underway, the clock was ticking, and I was hoping I could get it to run well enough to get out there and get going.

No dice.

It ran great in neutral as long as you kept the revs up, but if you kicked it down to an idle, it would sputter out in about 30-60 seconds. And even if you kept the revs up, as soon as you nudged it into gear, it sputtered and died.

We were halfway out of the slip when it died the first time. As we drifted towards a lovely old 50-foot wooden schooner, I managed to get the engine started again, and it conked out again. It died about three times as we managed to slip out of the marina and into the Susquehanna River. We managed to get about 200 yards out of the marina and into the river when the engine conked out for about the fifth or sixth time.

Long story short, after I was freaking out because we were drifting with no power and not enough wind to sail, in the middle of an active shipping lane, with very large barges full of stone and ore going past about a mile away, I managed to keep the engine to keep running long enough to limp back closer to shore, before it died again, and then I tossed the anchor out to keep us from drifting further. Then we called the marina, which was a mere 1/2 hour from closing for the day, and had them send someone out to tow us back in.

So, after working all day in my office on Tuesday and driving for about 4-5 hours up to Havre de Grace, getting four hours of sleep, and then working for about 9-10 hours in the heat, with no breaks for anything all day, we ended up leaving the marina at about 6:00. I got home at nearly 10:00 p.m. During the drive home, I came as close as I ever have come to falling asleep behind the wheel. I got home, took a much-needed shower, fell into bed and passed out.

I told him not to underestimate how much work the boat needs before it is reliable and safe. It floats, the sails are good, and the engine is sound. It just needs some deferred maintenance taken care of and I'm sure it will run like a champ - the Atomic 4 is a great little engine. But the boat clearly was neglected for some time and needs a lot of other "deferred maintenance" dealt with.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:42 pm
by Ric in Richmond
Whew!! No fun.

We have been so lucky with the two boats I have brought back to virginia from the peoples republic of Maryland. THey have both run and we had great weather...although we did learn that 1/4 means empty on my boat!!!

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:26 am
by radicalcy
I'm so glad I didn't say something like "good luck with that" .....because now, I can't say, "I told you so" .
Unlike Ric, I've never had any luck on a first attempt at moving an acquired boat under sail. I always assume the worst, and hope for something less than horrible. I try to plan for at least two days to get things organised, but always with the expectation that I'll have to leave the boat in situ and return another day. Hope you'll be able to take care of the engine thing with little hassle and on your return from Cali, will have a quick easy trip.
Did your friend pick up the Boat US towing package? It's the best boat accessory I've ever purchased. A friend of mine was towed from the Potomac all the way to Deltaville a few years ago. His total outlay was $50 under the unlimited plan.

Re: Richmond / Central Virginia forum members

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 8:28 am
by ILikeRust
Yes, I told him he MUST get the Boat U.S. unlimited towing or I wouldn't go. So he did.

As far as getting the engine running right and doing anything else with getting that boat ready to move, I put that firmly in the category of SEP.*














*SEP = Someone Else's Problem