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Triton106

Thanks Tim, Dick for your quick responses and for confirming what I suspected was the cause of my Atomic 4 vibration problem. The boat is in the water now and I don't plan to haul out until spring so it is hard to tell you the condition of the cutless bearing. By the level of vibration I am sensing ...

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My Atomic 4 has always had a bit more vibration when I put it in gear than when the engine is neutral. But recently I have noticed that the vibration has gotten worse (or I am just paying more attention to it now that I have dealt with the other system issues like fuel tank and exhaust). I have alwa...

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I appreciate everyone's input. One additoinal thought on the placement of batteries in the bilge - I have always thought that is a great location for them but another school of thought believes that if the cabin is flooded that is when you need the batteries to pump the water out. If the batteries a...

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Thanks very much Tim, Dave, Quetzalsailor. Really helpful advice and ideas. I priced the Fein Multimaster a couple of times and although I love the versatility of the tool I cannot afford it. So, I will proceed with my basic sabre saw with tape over the seam and real fine blade. I do plan to reuse t...

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I have never really learned how to properly cut out a hatch opening even though I have done several in the past. The results are invariablly less than satisfying, primarily due to the lines not being as straight as I would liked even though most of the time I use a straight edge as a cutting guide f...

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I must be missing something here... I thought Tim wrote Honduras mahogany.

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Thanks everyone for your comments. It's very educational. Here are some of my takeaways from this discussion, not in any particular order. (Who is spoiled by his 67% ballast ratio - [referring to his Shields]) I did not know B/D ratio can go that high, and looking at some Shields sailing photos they...

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What is the advantage of using wax vs. epoxy? It seems that wax is not going to hold the t-ducer in place.

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Thanks everyone for your comments. It appears that the opinion is unanimous - adding ballast does not stiffen Tritons (or similar designs) noticablly and slows them down in light air. I just want to explore this topic a bit more, not because I don't believe the comments. Look, since my boat is not i...

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Forrest,

Thanks for posting the info on outboard antifouling paint. Do you have pictures of the well and outboard on your Renegate that you can post or PM me?

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I think the common feedback I hear about Triton and other similarly designed CCA era boats is that they are tender. While one can debate if that is true or not, or being tender is a virtue or not my preference is to make mine stiffer by adding additional ballast. From the National Triton website I l...

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Just want to update with the progress on the project. I went back to the boat today and after anticipating all week to find out if the t-duce works in-hull or not I went right to working on finding a spot. But first I sanded and cleaned out two potential spots under the port ans starboard settes clo...

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Thanks everyone for your help! It's comforting to know that I have to hunt around for a good spot. I thought the problem maybe because my t-ducer is not designed for in-hull use. Ziplock bag is a great trick. But I am still puzzled that even if there are tiny bubbles in the silicon I used why would ...

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My WC Triton came with two transducers (depth), one thru-hull and another in-hull. When I tossed out the PO's antique depth sounder that is about the size of small toaster and weighs a ton I replaced it with a Norcross Hawkeye depth sounder mounted on the bulkhead. I conneted it with the thru-hull t...

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This discussion on garboard drain plugs reminded me a question - I have one on Blossom as well. However, since buying Triton106 about 10 years ago (it's been that long already sadly) I have hauled it out four times (out here on the west coast we don't haul out every year) and each time I stared at t...

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Thanks Rachel for the insight on the relative strength of stayed bowsprit vs. unstayed anchor platform. I have always liked the Westsail 32 bowsprit for its looks and always felt that it is also well designed (see below - credit goes not the owners of Fluid Motion - isn't that pretty?). I plan to co...

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Wow, Tim - that's incredible force to bend the 3/8" stainless steel plate. I have always heard that in those conditions the stainless steel pulpit and anchoring platform can be "twisted like a pretzel" but have never even seen a picture like that. That leads me to question what the bo...

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Rachel, I am sure you have read what happened to Tim's first anchor platform. I believe your concern is completely valid. As to the solution, I think you may have read Tim's solution of using 3/8" stainless steel plate to back the mahogany platform on his second anchor platform. If I were to ad...

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Dave, If you are only going to use the bowsprit as anchoring platform I don't think you can find a finer example than Tim's setup. If, however, you are going use it to move forestay further out to reduce weatherhelm you can find a really well documented example of another Bristol 29. Here are the li...

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Thanks Tim, Britton for taking the time to show me the way. It's much appreciated. You helped put an end to my internal debate with the water tank/bilge solution which has been driving me crazy. What the boat wants the boat gets! Stainless steel tank it will be. Hopefully the winter season and the l...

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Britton, it's about time you chimed in. You have no idea how many times I checked out your website for your bilge tank and bow tank. I don't know how you got your vendor to make those stainless tanks for $500 each. Maybe that is the difference between Maine and SF Bay Area or I just have not shoped ...

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My apologies to Tim, it is "What the boat WANTS, the boat gets."

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Tim said: But hoping to use a tank that has anecdotal and documented information as to its internal content (i.e. lead, polyester, etc) for your water supply is just penny wise and pound foolish. Tim, this will not be the first time I am accused of being penny wise and pound foulish. I think I ought...

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Tim wrote: Is that built-in water tank really anything you'd want to use for actual potable water storage? I thought I have read stories of exposed lead, raw polyester resin, and other horrors in there. I tossed and turned back and forth between "reconditioning" the existing built-in tank ...

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Tim, let me add my gratitude for the detailed documentation of Seabreeze project. Reading the Circe project log along with the Wall Street Journal each morning has been my daily morning routine. Adding to it the Seabreeze project log is like having a second cup of Starbucks every morning. What more ...

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Thanks everyone for your comments/ideas - very helpful. Tim asked: What's in the way beneath the v-berth in a west coast Triton that might force your drain water up onto the cabin sole before it can make it to the bilge? Why can't the water flow beneath the sole platform beneath the v portion of the...

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Hi All, On my west coast Triton (Blossom, #106) the anchor locker water drains through a limber hole to the area under the v-berth which then drains through another limber hole to the area under the wet locker (starboard side) or the head (port side). From there it goes through another limber hole t...

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I can actually think of a number of uses for the space under the galley: 1. Extra batteries - I currently use it for two group 27 batteries (I know the weight, off center, etc...) 2. Fuel tank - as Rachel suggested and Jim demonstrated (I know the smell if diesel is contemplated, and fire danger if ...

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Hawgdawg, My view on A-4 vs. diesel is very close to Britton's. If I need to repower one day I will probably consider diesel but mine is running well now so why fix something ths is not broken. Then there is always the outboard option. This is a very volatile top so I will stay away from it. I recen...

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I have been comparing notes with Rob Heggen who is also working on this west coast Triton. I have posted his cabin remodeling work in another thread. Since then he has made more improvements that I think is interesting and worth imitating. Here are some interesting pictures. I gave Rob the old bronz...

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I received the following information from Ray Alsup (Pegasus) that I thought I will share with everyone interested - Thank you Ray! Hi Ray...sorry for the delay but I try to avoid the delta when it has triple digit temperatures. However I took advantage of the cool spell this week and went down for ...

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Thanks Tim! Another option might be to build a new standpipe directly above the Naqualift location that you show (assuming you have lots of vertical clearance there), and rerouting your raw water injection point below the high point (and on the downstream side) of that new well-insulated standpipe. ...

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Hi all, Here is a picture of a plastic classic at Fortman Marina. I was told that it is a Choey Lee. Does any one know what model Choey Lee it is? I love the hard dodger on this boat. Most hard dodgers are not very attractive (usually too boxy). http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2655/3806824230_061ab65...

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Thank you Tim, Chris for your insights. They are very helpful. I am very much leaning toward Vetus under the engine solution. But before I pull the trigger on the purchase here a couple of picture of what I was thinking of doing (i.e. installing the Naqualift Silencer). The first picture shows the p...

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Hi All, I own a Pearson Triton and am in the process of redoing my fuel tank which is forcing me to redo my exhaust (because the new fuel tank location is where the old waterlift was). I am planning to switch to Vetus waterlock which many Triton owners have used with great success since it fits unde...

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Hi All, I have an early model west coast Triton (hull number 106) which I understand has a deep bilge under the fiberglass sole which serves as a built-in water tank. A fellow west coast Triton (hull number 256) owner (Ray Alsup) has pictures of the bilge on his website which I have copied here (sor...

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Hi All, I thought I pass on my experience with System Three general purpose epoxy resin so others won't suffer my "pain". I switched from West System to System Three after an incident whereby the West resin and hardener "overflowed" from their containers over night (I still don't...

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Byron,

Seems like you use the same blue foam for bulkhead as Tim. Do they come with trapezoid already cut or do you have to cut to size and shape? In any case where do you get them? I cannot seem to find them anywhere on web. Maybe I am not googling with the right name.

Thanks and regards,

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I think they were invented for people like myself who buy parts when they are on sale for later use. When West Marine had a big VIP sale years ago I bought the valves (not the proper seacocks) for what I anticipated to be the head replacement project. At the time I did not understand the difference ...

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Todd, Wow. Yeah, I guess your experience is about what I was expecting! Were you able to use a Sawzall-type saw, or maybe an angle grinder? Or were some of the cuts by hand saw? #450 only has tabbing along the forward and aft tank edges, but that tabbing along the aft edge sure is hard to get to! I ...

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Todd, Yes, it was a monster of a job to cut it out. I thought about it for a long long time before finally resolving to do i t. The final encouragement to do "the right thing" came from Rob Heggen who also recently cut out his tank. Rob and I had slightly different approach to cutting it. ...

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Does anyone know where I can find polyurethane foam strip like the one shown in this picture (the light blue strips) of Tim's Daysailor project? The westcoast Tritons do not have a bulkhead between the lazerette area under the poop deck and the space under the cockpit. I am planning to put one ther...

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Finally, having located a local supplier of extruded polystyrene foam board (thanks Rachel for your tip) I have been moving forward with the ice box reconstruction project. I spent the last weekend cutting four 2x8 2 inch foam board to fit into the empty void that once housed the original ice box. M...

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Bob, Wow, I am definitely drooling... Two features caught my attention more than others: 1. BMW 12D - why did you choose it? I have consider it as a repower option for my Atomic 4 (it is what Dan Spurr did with his Pearson Triton). But parts are hard to come by. Looks like you found a new one, corre...

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What do you do if one is rebuilding the engine, including hot tanking the block, manifold, head, and oil pan? I was told that the machine shop will usually prime the casting for you. What type/brand paint will you recommend?

Peter, your Yanmar looks clean enough to eat off of.

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Using the "preformed" inlays that Tim linked would not require much skill or effort using a top bearing pattern bit in your router with a pattern matching the diameter of the compass rose Tom, you don't know my skill level, or lack there of, yet :<) IMHO I think the end result would be mu...

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Thanks everyone for the advices and tips. It's very helpful. I went on a couple of the websites mentioned in this thread and decided that I don't have the skills or the patience for marquetry. Decoupage is within my skill level. Looking at the example of the compass rose inlay in the above picture I...

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Hi All, I found this picture of a nav station chart table on the Pearson Ariel Forum and would like to copy it (no, I don't have a large nav station on my Triton, it's for my icebox which will also serve as chart table). Since the forum does not have any description of how it is made I googled aroun...

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Rachel, your nautical knowledge is truly impressive. I have yet to come up with a question to stump you.

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Sometimes I don't understand how things work. It seems that everyone on this forum has heard blue foam board. It also seems that everyone thinks that one should have no trouble finding them in a local lumber yard. Well, not the case in the SF Bay Area. Home Depot, never heard of them; Lowes, never h...

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