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Jason K

Hi Rick - welcome to the forum. That looks like a great boat and I'm looking forward to hearing more about it.

Jason K

Christmas Jason? That was no typo - this yard does not have a reputation for speed... Actually, I got a call today to see if I could come by for an inspection. The new Baltoplate was sprayed on. It looks like...well, it looks like the bottom of a boat (sans cracks). Which is great. They really did ...

Jason K

Speaking of humor, I asked Steve (who owns the new yard) when he thought the boat would be ready. He said, "Not too long now, maybe the weekend after Christmas if the weather cooperates." "Christmas, Steve?" "Oh, I meant Mardi Gras, maybe the weekend after Mardi Gras or the ...

Jason K

Are these self tapping screws, or machine screws? If self tapping, drill and tap and changeover to machine screws and loctite. If you're already using machine screws....well then......never mind. They're machine screws, but thanks for the advice. Everything was fine until I had to take the boom off...

Jason K

Thanks guys. Rivets? Loctite? I need access to the boom for the outhaul and reefing line that are run internally. I did try Loctite, but it wasn't tight enough as the screws backed out again. As far as catastrophic failure is a concern, and if the gooseneck is essentially a socket, the tension in th...

Jason K

I've had a persistent problem with the five screws that attach the boom to the gooseneck. Several of them work loose and it's a problem that could really cause an issue (obviously). I am trying to decide if I should simply drill and tap larger screws or if I should also through-bolt it in addition t...

Jason K

A moisture meter will work for detecting moisture without drilling. If you are going to drill, then the condition of the core will tell you what you need to know with a visual inspection. Good core will be clean, bright, dry and well bonded. If the only purpose of the moisture meter would be to insp...

Jason K

Sorry to hear of your continuing troubles--I didn't mean to make you relive the whole unpleasantness! (Did you order that new trailer yet? :<) ) Not yet, though I did call a guy selling a J/30, a trailer, and a truck. I asked him to give me a call if the boat is sold without the trailer. It's beyon...

Jason K

Thanks for wondering Tim. Things have progressed, but I still don't have the boat back. I'm hoping to get it by the end of February. Picking up where I left off: I had Northshore Marine relaunch the boat before Christmas. When I came to pick up the boat, the bill was way higher than estimated and in...

Jason K

How's the refit coming along?

Jason K

This is a very interesting thread. Timely too, as I'm going to replace my older, coated lifelines just to be sure I don't send family and friends swimming. I'm leaning towards coated lifelines as I prefer the look and feel of them. Even if I need to replace them every five years to be prudent, I sti...

Jason K

That's an idea...

I don't know how far my banking and financial services resume would get me though. However, if anyone does find the opportunity interesting, please let me know.

I would be happy to take any of you out for a night and out for some sailing if you ever make it down here.

Jason K

Thanks to the recent arrival of my first child

Congratulations Tony!

Jason K

2 or 3 coats of primer, depending on coverage and how much you sand back off as you continue your prep. Often, after the first primer coat, you'll find you still have some filling, fairing and sanding to do. The same applies to top coats. It goes on very thin, but two to three top coats are typical,...

Jason K

I just reread your post and I'm not sure where I got the idea you were doing this from below. It is a big job, but not a technically difficult one. The only issue you might encounter is the weather, as your work area will be exposed for a few days. I promise, you'll get used to cutting and drilling ...

Jason K

What about teak and holly veneer ply? Some of the newer production boats are now using a synthetic product in lieu of real teak and holly or teak and holly veneer - I can't remember the name off the top of my head. Another option would be to do the teak strips like Tim did with Kaholee , though that...

Jason K

Hi Jasper - welcome to the forum! Is this a Triton you're referring to? Generally speaking, you should not have an issue with having the mast stepped, even if it's deck stepped, assuming you're not recoring in that immediate area. Most boats should have a means of support other than just the deck st...

Jason K

Things are moving forward. As you know, I rejected the work completed at the current boatyard. It was clearly inadequate. However, the yard owner's insistence to the contrary caused Progressive to question the validity of my argument. So, we hired a surveyor to inspect the work and render an opinion...

Jason K

A few $1000 deductibles and unsatisfactory yard bills (not to mention the frustration value) and a $6000 trailer suddenly looks like small money--all the more so if there's a realistic opportunity to be partners with or lease to other J/30 owners in the area. I got a quote from Triad and $6000 buys...

Jason K

Seems like fixing it yourself would be less work than chasing after this guy. It is apparent by his diagnosis and attitude in regards to repairing your boat he has less than a professional attitude and skills I agree with Dave: maybe you have those boatyards down there where you are not allowed to ...

Jason K

Here's my response to G: Hi G, Thank you for taking the time to write the description of the work you've completed. A couple of points: the cracks were more significant than a hairline fracture, particularly where they ran forward at the top of the keel stub. If you find it helpful, photos of the da...

Jason K

OK, fine - I'll spill the beans now, but it's a lot to type. I was going to wait until tomorrow. I hope you're happy, Rachel! :) The boatyard owner, we'll call him G, has been emphatically, and inexplicably, insistent that the crack in the photos above could not possibly be the source of the water. ...

Jason K

I wrote:I am a little concerned that the repair was too light.

Make that real concerned.

Me and boatyards...there's more drama. I'll fill you all in shortly, but I couldn't resist the teaser.

Jason K

So, an impeller, a thermostat, a lot of cleaning, all new cooling hoses, and several sessions of practicing sailing into the slip later, I'm inclined to blame a $3.00 gasket. Yes, but you feel so much more secure knowing you have those new hoses, thermostat and impeller not to mention your advanced...

Jason K

David, thanks for asking. I meant to type a resolution awhile back but thought it would be bad luck given the intermittent nature of the problem. Then, I completely forgot about updating the thread. Yes, the issue appears to be resolved. I replaced the intake hoses, both from the thru-hull to the st...

Jason K

I'll echo the recommendation to simply remove the top skin and rebond it properly. I've been there and done that with the drilling method and, although I was trying to slap a band-aid on rotten core, I can promise you that is far easier and less destructive to cut off the skin in one piece. As Mike ...

Jason K

Yikes, is that true? I was under the impression that it was okay to use a regular (i.e. non-supplied air) respirator (with appropriate cartridges) with AwlGrip, as long as it was not being sprayed. What you're saying seems to counter this, so perhaps I need to check my research. That's my understan...

Jason K

I'm sorry about the delayed response. After grinding out the area, it appears the crack running aft is just in the fairing compound. I would not have thought the fairing was that thick, but we ground past the gelcoat and the crack was not in the laminate. The separation at the aft end of the keel wa...

Jason K

OK, here we go. I'll mostly let the photos speak for themselves and I'll update this weekend when we start grinding to determine the extent of the damage. We're also going to see how much tightening the keelbolts helps. The preliminary hope is that the bolts are loose, rather than the structure to w...

Jason K

I'm typing from my work computer, but I will upload photos this evening. I pulled the boat out of the water and it didn't take long to determine that much of your advice was spot on. There is damage at the very aft end of the keel/hull joint. There is some separation there and a thin crack runs aft ...

Jason K

Were you motoring? Any chance the prop hit something and broke the stern tube/shaft log Yes, I was heading into a short channel that leads to a marina under power at about 6 knots. I suppose the prop could have hit something, but I am not getting any water from the stuffing box or from where the st...

Jason K

I'm sure it was the keel that took the hit. The rudder is hung from the transom. Even if it sheared off, the damage would be above the waterline.

Jason K

I either ran aground or collided with debris in late October when delivering the boat for a regatta. That incident has me very worried. I finally got the boat home two Sunday's ago. I did not go to the boat until this past Saturday. When I went below, I found several inches of water above the cabin ...

Jason K

I hate insurance companies. Really.

Progressive will insure up to $20,000 on boats that are 15 yrs or older. They sometimes will not require a survey if the value matches their database info. They are who I used for my Triton.

Jason K

Welcome to the forum - it was interesting to read through your extensive blog - particularly your engine access solution. :)

Jason K

To answer your question, the outhaul is a line that runs insided the boom, often through a couple blocks. It exits at the aft end of the boom and connects to the clew of your mainsail. Hauling on it pulls the main out: outhaul. You'll want it hauled out upwind and eased downwind, the degree to which...

Jason K

If the boat is still in the water, you'll need to move quickly. Get the wax coated packing material from any chandlery. Use the exposed portion of the shaft to cut the material to the right size. You want each piece to fit around the shaft with the ends coming together (each piece will be cut to the...

Jason K

I had a great day sailing yesterday. My hands were way too busy for photos (sorry, I'll get some on the return trip) but it was such a nice day, it's worth typing about. Another area sailor invited a J/30 owner from New York to come race on his new J/30 this week. Unfortunately, his boat is still in...

Jason K

Wow, nice job. That looks very solid. I also think it's a great idea to have a removable pedestal for both the cabin and the cockpit.

Jason K

I buy mine from a local glass store. They are often sold in rather large sheets so, unless you're buying a small, pre-cut piece, you'll lose any savings to the extra shipping costs.

Jason K

Hi Ray, Balsa is most often sold that way. The kerfs cut into the wood and the fiberglass skrim allow the core material to conform to curves. It's fine and quite effective as a core material. I recommend filling the kerfs with lightly thickened epoxy. You'll have a hard time tapering the ends of the...

Jason K

The only John Deere paint I could find was in a gallon can and I was looking for a spray paint. I found a "Tractor and Implement Paint" that was clearly modeled after John Deere's proprietary color.

Jason K

No problem, Jeff. I had a bit more to type and got interrupted yesterday. The gist is that the stuff is pretty messy, so tape down some masking paper on the deck and tape off around the portlight frames. You can clean a lot of it with water while it is still pliable (after a day or so is a good time...

Jason K

Butyl caulk. It's sometimes sold at hardware stores as "gutter sealant" and is available in black, grey, or white.

Jason K

Hi Pete,

Welcome to the forum and congratulations on the new boat. We're looking forward to your work on #53 and, as a warning, fully expect lots of photos.

The Triton is a great boat and well worth the time and energy you're about to spend. Congrats again.

Jason K

The deck and the hull can move independently and, given that epoxy can be brittle, I would also go with 5200.

Jason K

Wow. Gorgeous boat.

Congratulations - I can't wait to see more photos.

Jason K

Brightsides is an Interlux product. I strongly advice against using Penetrol with it. Interlux is very specific about which solvents to use with which paint system and, as an LPU, following the manufacturer's instructions is key. Plus, it goes on very thin - I can't see the benefit of using Penetrol...

Jason K

Plus, acetone, MEK and other harsh solvents are potent carcinogens. There was time I would wash my hands with the stuff, but no more. A sailor I sail with and against often has had kidney cancer that was linked to these solvents - a battle he's still fighting with a fraction of one kidney.

Jason K

It's too bad that the current batch of plastic boat makers don't get into the 'retro thing' like some of the auto manufacturers have. Plastic makes sense to me now; butt-ugly still doesn't. There are a few out there that meet that description. For example, I really like the Morris Yachts M Series :...

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