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falcon

Thanks Dennis this helps a lot. I suppose that its best to use 2/0 cable size even though its a bear to work with. I don't have a lot of room and the batteries are located forward under the v-berth. The longest runs are the ground from the battery to the engine block at approximately 14 feet and fro...

falcon

Thanks Dennis this is just what I needed to know. Speaking of electrical fires, I plan to run both the house and start battery lines through a fuse blocks located close to each battery. Question: what size fuse would you recommend? The longest run, the one going to the stater solenoid, could be abou...

falcon

Has anyone in this forum had any experience making up battery cables with welding cable instead of 2/0 marine cable? It sounds like it may be more flexible and easier to run and it may be cheaper.

falcon

Mitiempo, Thanks for the excellent explanation. This is just what I needed. We have a place back in Maine and my wife bought this project boat for my 50th birthday. I am now in Boise, Idaho and trying to decide in which ocean to launch her. Attached is a photo of her back in Maine when we bought her...

falcon

I am finally at the re-wiring stage in my Cheoy Lee Frisco Flyer restoration and am a bit bewildered / intimidated by the plethora of wiring systems and gadgets. I want to keep the electrical system as simple as possible to include: navigation lighting, compass light, cabin lighting, depth sounder, ...

falcon

I am in the process of installing a single lever side mounted Vetus SISCO engine control. There seems to be a lot of play in the hub. The directions are not that detailed and I was wondering if there was an adjustment screw that I missed that might tighten it up. I know that many of you on this foru...

falcon

Hi Glen,

Thats exactky what I am doing, passing the exhaust hose through the lazerette bulkhead enroute to the goosenech mounted on the inside of the transom.. I just wasnt sure if I needed to worry about chaffing. I appreciate the input.

falcon

What is the suggested way to pass a 2 inch Vetus exhaust hose through a plywood baulkhead? Should I cut an oversize hole and caulk with something like "lifecaulk" to reduce chaffing? Is this even neccessary?

falcon

What is the best way to fashion a "ground jumper" on an inboard with a drive saver, stainless shaft and bronze prop?

falcon

I was wondering how best to attach vetus wet exhaust and elbo components in my engine compartment and bilge area. Only a couple of small insignificant looking screw holes are apparent. I saw that Tim used what looked like some sort of bronze strapping on his "Equinox" rebuild. Any ideas or...

falcon

Jim, I mounted a 13.5 hp Beta with the Atomic 4 configuration in my Cheoy Lee Frisco Flyer last weekend. I had already beefed up the original solid teak stringers with epoxy and coaxial fiberglass. On the starboard side I had to cut out a space on the inside of the stringer between the feet to provi...

falcon

Thank you all for your helpful input. My plan now is to build a pan out of marine plywood and fiberglass. "Never never land" is an apt description of the area below the engine mounts. Thanks again for your help!

falcon

I am installing a beta diesel in my Cheoy lee and am not happy with the metal drip pan that originally came with the atomic 4. I am concerned that it may oil can and act to amplify engine noise.This is probably a stupid question, but how important is the drip pan under an engine anyway? Is it a lega...

falcon

I hope to begin to fair out the fiberglass hull of my Cheoy Lee Frisco Flyer in preparation for painting and was wondering if it was important/neccessary to purchase a specific sovent to remove wax contaminants or if I could simply use MEK or acetone? Also, what does this forum recomend as a primer ...

falcon

Rachel,

Thank you for alerting me to the Groco information page. I should have thought of that. I was interested to learn that they can be dissasembled in the field. The boat is still on the hard so as you suggest, they mayl be easier to turn once there wet.
Pete

falcon

Rachel,

There are 4 of them: two 1.5" Groco BV1500 vaulves for the cockpit drains, a 1.5" tri-flange Groco BV1500 for the manual bilge pump, and a 1" groco BV1000 for the raw water intake.

Pete

falcon

I am installing new seacocks and noticed that since they have sitting in my shop for a couple of years that while new, they are a bit stiff to open and close. What is the recommended lubricant?
Thanks,
Pete

falcon

Probably a stupid question, but how do you attach the wooden escutcheon? If you used small screws wouldnt you risk damaging the wires they cover?

falcon

Thanks for providing the details which I plan to emulate with my chainplates.
Pete

falcon

Drew,

Nice looking instalation. Could you provide some details on how you fashioned the raised pieces surrounding the chainplates? Or did I miss that on an earlier post?
Pete

falcon

Tom,
I have rebedded the ports on my cheoy lee with life caulk and have had a tough time making the sealent bead look neat when I am finished. Trimming the excess leaves a very uneven surface. What is your tecnique?
falcon

falcon

The Atomic 4 was in bad shape but this didn't really matter because I wanted to re-power with a beta Deisel anyway. The engine was installed on two heavy teak members under a hatch at the forward end of the cockpit.

falcon

There had been a lot of water damage to the interior requiring the hull interior to be gutted and all but one bulkhead replaced. This gave me a lot of practice with the "Tick stick".The stuffing box was almost impossible to access so I installed an access hatch in the rear floor of the coc...

falcon

A couple more deck photos.
Pete

falcon

Attached are a few photos of my on-going 1967 Frisco Flyer re-build.

falcon

I have lots of photos and will try and post some in the "projects" section.
Pete

falcon

Tim, Thanks for giving me the source for the threaded inserts but had a few questions. The external threads are 9/16 -12 but I noticed that you used 9/16-24 thread. Is that ok? I too was surprised that they were only half an inch long. Would you then use cap scews that are only say 1.5 inces long or...

falcon

Thanks Tim.
Pete

falcon

In 2002 I had Tim survey a 1967 type III Frisco Flyer and in spite of all the work that he said would be required to bring her back to something that “I could be proud of”, my wife bought her for my 50th birthday. I have admittedly been distracted by work and a re-location, but I have really enjoyed...

falcon

Quetzalsailor, thanks for your responce. I fashoned the motor mounts some time ago and it was the recent thread that you mentioned that prompted my question. Regarding the pastwax coating on the lag bolts, I don't think that I applied more than a thin film. I used neat west systems without an additi...

falcon

I will be installing a Beta diesel in my Cheoy Lee Frisco as soon as the weather warms up. I drilled oversize holes for the engine mounts into the fiberglassed teak stringers and filled the holes with West System epoxy and then inserted stainless lag bolts. I coated the lag bolts with a car past wax...

falcon

I used Tightbond II a waterproof white glue applied to both surfaces. Once the glue was dry the pieces were bonded together with a hot iron which re-activated the glue. This made alighnment very easy and I was very pleased with the product. I then coated the edges with epoxy and laid on several coat...

falcon

New Headliner

falcon

I have been very pleased with the results of covering the bare fiberglass in the cabin roof of my Cheoy Lee Frisco Flyer with a good quality hardwood beadboard painted an off white. I attached it to the raw fiberglass using brass round-headed screws and finish washers so that it could be dropped if ...

falcon

Thank you all for your input. I just ordered a 7335 from tool Crib for $120.
Pete

falcon

There has been extensive discussion on this site extolling the virtues of the Porter- Cable 7335 sander. My kids want to buy me one for my birthday, but seem to only find re-conditioned units advertised on the web. Any experience with the re-conditioned units? Have they come up with a new model, and...

falcon

Thank you all for your helpful input. All through hulls will have proper seacocks regardless of their waterline possition and I certainly appreciate the fact that changes often lead to unexpected consequences but it sounds like I should definitely move the bilge pump through hulls above the waterlin...

falcon

I am in the process of replacing the thru-hulls on my boat and noticed that most were located below, or in the case of the cockpit scuppers, well below the waterline. I understand that the raw water intake for the engine needs to be well below the waterline, but from a safety standpoint, would it no...

falcon

Dave this looks perfect. I just ordered 10 feet. Sorry for being so computer illiterate.

Pete

falcon

Dave,
I am not sure waht "square buna" is.

Pete

falcon

I have been having dificulty finding a replacement rubber gasket for the opening ports on my Cheoy Lee Frisco Flyer. The original gaskets, now deteriorated, were rectangular in crosssection, about 1/2" by 1/2" and fit into a grove on one half of the opening port. The waterproof seal was fo...

falcon

I have one of the earlier models that I have found to be very useful for cutting fiberglass tabbing, but I have been consistently frustrated with any of the sanding applications. The tool is so powerful that the hook and loop sanding pads melt as do the alternative stick-on versions. The detail sand...

falcon

Thank you all. Your input was exactly what I needed. I had reviewed several books on the subject but remained unclear on the subject of dedicated runs.

Pete

falcon

I am about to begin re-wiring my boat and have a very basic question regarding wiring: To correctly wire two separate cabin lights for example, should I run two separate 14 gauge circuits ( four wires) from the distribution panel (or fuse bar) back and forth to each light, or run a single branched c...

falcon

Jeff, I used 5 mm marine plywood as a base onto which I glued teak veneer. The technique of bonding the veneer by reactivating dry wood glue was suggested to me by another Cheoy Lee owner who was also a cabinet maker. Accurately positioning the veneer was much easier than it would have been with con...

falcon

Thank you. This is just what I needed.
Pete

falcon

Is there any problem with using a Groco Flanged Adapter in combination with an in-line ball valve in place of a standard flanged seacock? I ask because this combination appears to be about half the price of the standard one-piece seacock.

Pete

falcon

No, I removed only the inside port trim pieces, although they are attached the same way that the outside trim is, i.e. bunged screws into the underlaying fiberglass. If you find that there is not enough teak remaining on the trim pieces to re-bung, you could consider glueing in a "false bung&qu...

falcon

Although I did have to re-manufacture a few, but with care I was able to remove them. I removed the bungs by first removing the varnish with a cabinate scraper then piercing the center of the bung with the point of a sharp awl to reveal the bronze machine screws. Once all the fasteners are removed a...

falcon

I had the same problem with my 1967 cheoy lee frisco flyer. The teak is a veneer bonded to plywood which in turn is bonded to the underlying fiberglass. Mine was dammaged beyond repair from leaking ports. I removed the trim and then the plywood pannelling using a scaper. I then sanded the fiberglass...

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